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Thursday, October 06, 2011

Why can’t Tampa support its team?

By Tangotiger, 09:12 AM

Jason asks.

It seems obvious to me that the answer is the fanbase itself.
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/attendance_base_for_each_team/

There, I show that the fanbase for each team since 1987, if their team played .500 ball.  By far the worst was the Expos-gutted teams after all the fire sales concluding with Pedro being traded.  That one was an exceptional case.  Anyway, bringing up the bottom were the Expos (1987-1997), Rays, Pirates, A’s, Marlins.

That is, these teams are simply starting off with a low base.  The Dodgers (through to 2009 anyway) had the highest fan base, almost double that of those five bottom teams.

I also concluded the following:

- the two cities that have a good fan base don’t have a team: Brooklyn and Montreal… given a decent situation, each city can support a team

- Oakland and Tampa are probably the two teams that may benefit the most from a new ballpark

I also said this:

6. Anyway, best way to use this chart is to look at the base numbers (in either step 5 above, or the 1987_2009 in step 4), and treat that as a city’s “.500 team” fan support.

Then, in order to figure out how much fan support you can expect, add 2% for each win over 162 games.  So, if you are a .580 team (94 wins, or +13 wins above average), you add 26% to the base number.  Similarly, drop 2% for each win below average.

Now, the Rays base support (for a .500 team) is 20,960 fans.  Since they won 91 games (+10 wins above average), my little shortcut here says to add 20% to the base number.  That puts them at 25,152 fans per game.  They actually drew 18,879 fans, which is abysmally low from expectations (25% below expectations).

So, the fanbase itself may be in an even worse position than I thought.

Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with relocation, if a city isn’t supporting its team.  I like what happened with the Winnipeg Jets: they got their team ripped away, and when given a chance to support them once more, they came back in force, selling out the season tickets for the next 5 years, and with a waiting list that is some 8000 deep (I think that was the number).

A little temporary breakup may be what is needed for some teams.

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