THE BOOK cover
The Unwritten Book is Finally Written!
An in-depth analysis of: The sacrifice bunt, batter/pitcher matchups, the intentional base on balls, optimizing a batting lineup, hot and cold streaks, clutch performance, platooning strategies, and much more.
Read Excerpts & Customer Reviews

Buy The Book from Amazon


SABR101 required reading if you enter this site. Check out the Sabermetric Wiki. And interesting baseball books.
MOST RECENT ARTICLES
MAIL : You ask | We say

Advanced


THE BOOK--Playing The Percentages In Baseball

Filter posts by...

 

Monday, December 07, 2009

The relic that is the compensation system

By Tangotiger, 04:18 PM

Bill James:

but what needed to be explained was WHY management constructed this system to begin with.  At that time--the negotiations surrounding the 1981 strike--the commissioner’s office under Bowie Kuhn (and with Ray Grebey leading the negotiation effort) had a vision of creating a salary structure, a “pay scale” that would keep salaries in line.  They were pushing this “compensation system” in the hopes that it could be converted into a pay scale.  That was the original purpose of it.  They were hoping that, if they could get the union to AGREE to a system of compensation for one purpose, they could flip that into a general pay structure.

I thought that was interesting.  It was not so much to get a compensation system to devalue players, but as a way to get a salary structure in place. Insofar as what the compensation is actually used for, I said:

I agree that if you have a compensation system, you should tie it to the salary.  It’s so nice and simple.  What happened to the Orlandos (Cabrera, Hudson) last year, was terrible.

But, I question the need to even have a compensation system for “free” agents.  It’s a relic from when teams/players didn’t really know what would happen with free agency.  Other sports don’t have this idea, probably because the MLB experience showed them it was unnecessary.

And in reply to Bill: “But the contrast is based in part on the failure to realize that reality is ALWAYS messy. “ I said:

To your point here, it’s possible.  For example, the “Super 2s” was a simple enough “top 17% in service time for the 2+ to less than 3 years”.  And now you have teams holding players back, hoping to get them under the line.  And 172 days is a service year, and Longoria just misses by a day or two.  And JJ Hardy’s 20-day stay in the minors costs him a year. 

All these problems happen because of “tier-ing”.  And, if you make the top say 20% of salaries get compensation, then you may get alot of this jockeying around, perhaps alot of bonuses paid out to lower the guaranteed portion, etc.

So, yes, you may be right.  Perhaps adding a provision that a Type A would have to not only be in the top 20% of the silly ranking system (SRS), but also top 20% in salary.  That might blunt it.

That said, scrap the entire concept of it as outdated.

(4) Comments • 2009/12/08 • SabermetricsMLB_ManagementTalent_Distribution
Page 1 of 1 pages

Latest...

COMMENTS

May 26 11:15
What makes for a successful GM?

May 26 07:27
“Why Kickstarter works”

May 26 03:03
Pete Palmer’s new book: Basic Ball

May 26 01:11
Largest demonstration in Canadian history?

May 25 19:41
What sabermetrics is NOT

May 25 16:59
Howard Stern

May 25 15:12
Do pitcher’s reach back for velocity when needed?

May 25 12:51
Chad Curtis

May 25 11:26
Lack of hustle during a game

May 25 10:58
Rooting for laundry

THREADS

December 07, 2009
The relic that is the compensation system