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Wednesday, November 26, 2008

“Why in my day…”

By Tangotiger, 02:25 PM

It would seem that the genetic and mental makeup of all athletes has improved in all sports, except for a MLB pitcher.  You don’t hear the bullsh!t in the NHL about how players today are not better, stronger, or faster than of yesteryear.  While clearly some stars of the past like Gordie Howe and Rocket Richard would be stars today because of their toughness, no one is suggesting that stars today would be laid to waste fifty years ago.  Does anyone say that star players in the NBA or NFL would not have been tough enough or good enough to play in the past?  Would we say that star hitters today would not be star hitters in the past?  No, no one says this.

But pitchers?  All of a sudden…


...the one position where the manager has complete discretion as to how often to let the pitcher pitch and when to pull him from the game, we now decide that it’s the pitcher, unique among all athletes everywhere, that is not tough enough.  And yet, it’s pitchers today that throw harder and faster than they ever have.  (Perhaps even the reason they come out early is because they ARE throwing harder and faster than ever: they don’t pace themselves as much as those of yesteryear.  But, that’s not the point here.)

Let’s presume for the moment that star pitchers today are as good, as strong, as man enough, as those of the past.  That is, leave your “Why in my day...” at the door. 

So, what I did was looked at the total number of batters faced by pitchers in each season.  And, I took the 16th highest total of each season.  For example, in 2008, the 16th highest total of batters faced was 881.  In 1998, it was 958.  In 1988, it was 1001.  In 1978, it was 1062.  In 1968 it was 1038.  In 1958, it was 975.

We’re not going to presume that in the span of 10 years, from 1998 to 2008, that pitchers have gotten so weak that they face 8% less batters on that basis, are we?  Isn’t it more likely the environment that dictates how many batters a star pitcher faces?  Remember, I’m looking at the pitcher who faced the 16th highest number of batters in each season.

Anyway, let’s normalize all our batters faced numbers to 1000.  In 2008, CC Sabathia faced 1023 batters (surely HE’s a workhorse, and yet, he would not even crack the top 16 in 1968).  Since Mr#16 faced 881 batters, we bump up all the numbers by 1000/881, or 13.5%, giving Sabathia 1161 batters faced in a “normal” environment.

I did this for every pitcher in every season since 1901.  Greg Maddux, who in reality faced 20,421 batters (10th all-time), now comes out to 21,942 batters, to lead MLB history.  Nolan Ryan, who faced 22,575 (3rd all-time), now faces 21,870, to be #2.  The in-reality leader is Walter Johnson (23,749 batters), and in this revised reality comes in at 21,369 batters, or 6th.

The single-season leaders, in reality, are these:
year BFP
1903 1814
1908 1799
1904 1778
1901 1685
1902 1682
1907 1663
1904 1613
1904 1597
1904 1593
1902 1592
1901 1578
1904 1572
1912 1564
1901 1550
1923 1548
1904 1548
1971 1538

I didn’t want to give you their names, because it’s irrelevant.  Well, the last guy is Mickey Lolich.  But, really, what does it mean that the guys who faced the most batters since 1901 did it between 1901 and 1908?  Do we really believe that pitchers from one hundred years ago were simply so much stronger than today?  No, of course not. 

This is why I hate record-keeping in baseball.  Many think that because a number is recorded that it requires no understanding of the context.  This is unlike every other number faced in their daily lives.  “Why in my day, bread cost a quarter”; does anyone actually say that without using the word “inflation”?  I hate the box office numbers that they tout, not accounting for the fact that tickets cost more today than when Jaws came out.  Wouldn’t it be better (though, obviously less newsworthy) to say how many tickets were sold, than how much they were able to charge for them?  Do the Yankees report attendance, or how much money they were able to charge their customers?

Here is the virtual-reality batters faced numbers, single-season leaders:
year BFP1000
1946 1585
1908 1525
1941 1494
1903 1481
1953 1479
1902 1460
1938 1438
1907 1431
1901 1398
1979 1398
1972 1390
1977 1386
1902 1382
1911 1374
1948 1371
1911 1370
1944 1366
1971 1366

That last guy is the same Mickey Lolich in 1971.  The other 1970s pitchers in that list are Phil Niekro (twice) and Wilbur Wood.

Now, the #1 guy is Bob Feller, in 1946.  In reality, he was #25 in history.  (Before you think this is a war issue, the #16 guy in 1946 faced 954 batters.  In 1947 and in 1948 it was 958. )

This #16 baseline approach still may not be good enough. Roy Halladay is the leader among pitchers since 1988, with 1189 virtual batters (compared to 1071 actual) in 2003.  That puts him as #195.  Sabathia in 2008 is 268th all-time.

There are other kinds of baselines you can use.  You can set the baseline equal to the number of teams, so that while Walter Johnson is compared to the 16th highest total, Sabathia is compared to the 30th highest total.  There are arguments to be made for both sides here.  I’ll leave it to others to continue to work through this problem.

The key though is not to simply treat each number without accounting for the difference in environments.  We do it for everything else.  And we certainly have to do it for pitcher usage.

#1    Jake      (see all posts) 2008/11/26 (Wed) @ 22:36

Greg Maddux as the biggest workhorse of all time?  Somewhat surprising until I gave it a bit of thought.  20 30+ start seasons is quite remarkable in this age, and a guy like Maddux who throws strikes keeps his pitch count per batter down. 

Maddux is maybe my favorite pitcher ever--it’s a shame that I wasn’t much of a baseball fan during his prime--and it’s nice to see yet another item in my growing list of reasons to claim Maddux is the best pitcher of all time.


#2          (see all posts) 2008/11/26 (Wed) @ 23:28

Tango - if you opted for either the rose- or sepia-tinted lenses at the optometrist, you might find it easier to understand this point of view.

But I think the unwillingness to recognize the modern athlete’s ability is broader than you think.  The top home run hitters whose careers started in my lifetime are Bonds, Griffey, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro and A-Rod.  The press doesn’t exactly extol their commitment to the game (compare to the drunks of the 50s) and certainly didn’t talk about their superior training regimens (prior to steroids, of course.) Ironically, the only guy who escapes the ire of the press is Griffey because he fell so far short of his ceiling that he’s presumed clean.  But no need to call modern hitters lazy or claim that they face weak competition once you’ve discredited all these stars.

Some of this is fleeting - didn’t we hear in 1998 from every media outlet that Canada was no longer producing skilled hockey players?  All those sports reporters born in the 40s and 50s just want evidence that the stars of their youth were better than the stars of today.


#3    stevebogus      (see all posts) 2008/11/27 (Thu) @ 01:34

I suspect that the reduced workloads of modern pitchers have little or nothing to do with how strenuous pitching is. Some points to consider:

1. Modern pitchers are not necessarily removed from games because they are exhausted by the effort required. Ineffectiveness aside, every manager is now using pitch counts to determine when to remove starting pitchers. That, combined with the 5-man rotation, is what is limiting the workloads. Managers obviously have differing ideas of when to remove a pitcher, but the 150+ pitch game is a thing of the past. 130-pitch games are extremely rare. For the most part, effective starters are removed before 120 pitches.

2. A side effect of this is that starting pitchers may believe they can exert more effort, since they know in advance that they will not be required to throw a huge number of pitches. It is more likely that limited pitch counts have led to increased effort by pitchers rather than increased effort leading to fewer batters faced.

3. Pitch limits have probably extended the careers of modern pitchers. It used to be unheard of for pitchers to retain their grade-A fastball past age 35 or so. Most power pitchers suffered enough wear and tear on the arnm to sharply reduce their effectiveness by their early 30s (and lesser pitchers forced into retirement). Even Nolan Ryan was placed on a pitch count when he was in his 30s.

4. The reason teams began limiting pitcher workloads is free agency and guaranteed long-term multimillion dollar contracts. Teams now have an interest in protecting their pitchers. When 1-year contracts were the standard, even for superstar players, teams were content to allow the manager to run a pitching staff as he saw fit. Normally that was for short-term success. if a Billy Martin or Walter Alston decided to let a pitcher throw 13 innings or complete 30 games a season that was up to him. Long-term contracts have forced teams to take a longer view.

5. The deadball era was so different from post-1920 baseball that it might as well be treated as a different game. Pitchers really could coast along back then and let their fielders do the work until they got in a jam. That changed suddenly in 1920, and pitching became much more difficult. But I doubt that the effort required to pitch today is much different from the 1920s. I do think that modern pitchers are generally more skilled due to better conditioning and coaching. But I think that most of the differences in the game between then and now are a result of the playing environment rather than skill levels.


#4    birtelcom      (see all posts) 2008/12/01 (Mon) @ 15:50

#3: I’m not sure I understand your point 4.  Teams under the old reserve clause could control their players forever—they would seem to have had a maximum interest in preserving the long-term value of their pitchers under contract.  With free agency it would seem that a team will rarely have a financial interest in the long term career health of a pitcher.  If I’m paying a pitcher a lot of money for a few years, why not wring as much as possible out of that pitcher for as long as I’ve got him and let him worry about the long-term consequences.  Now this may be not be true in the case of very long term contracts, but how many of those are there for pitchers in the majors at one time—a handful? I think the reason for lesser workloads by pitchers in terms of IP lies elsewhere (the trend toward ever-lighter IP workloads has been more or less ongoing since the 19th century, and long predates free agency).  One thing to keep in mind is that the BFP numbers discussed above do not take into account increased pitch count per batter faced.  Lower BFP numbers don’t necessarily mean lower total pitch counts.


#5    stevebogus      (see all posts) 2008/12/02 (Tue) @ 02:30

birtelcom-

For most of baseball history the field manager had almost total control over how the players were used. Since a manager’s tenure was related to his ability to keep his team competitive he was under daily pressure to win. If a manager was secure in his job he might take a longer view.

While the long-term trend has been toward starting pitchers working less, individual managers had their own ideas. There were always a few pitchers around who could absorb enormous workloads, seemingly without breaking down (at least in the short term), as well as managers who would let them.

The one period in baseball history when this trend reversed for a while was in the 1960s-1970s. While the enlarged strike zone of 1963-1968 may have been a factor, I believe managers were simply copying the success the Dodgers and Walter Alston were having with Drysdale and Koufax. The success of the Dodgers in the early 1960s using a 4-man rotation and allowing their 2 best pitchers to complete over 50% of the games triggered a 10-year period of increased workloads as other teams jumped on that bandwagon.

With free agency sending salaries into an upward spiral in the later 1970s teams began cutting back on the workloads again. I don’t think it is a coincidence that after Nolan Ryan signed his million-dollar cantract with the Astros he was placed on a pitch count. Ryan had some elbow issues in his history and the Astros wanted to make sure he lasted the length of his contract.

While we don’t know exactly how many pitches per season the top hurlers were throwing before the late 1980s Tango’s pitch count estimator can provide a reasonable guess. Even if it is off by 5% or even 10% it is clear that Feller, Lolich, and other pitchers of the 300+ inning club were throwing many more pitches than recent pitchers.


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