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Thursday, August 25, 2011

Value of a called pitch

By Tangotiger, 10:19 AM

Someone at BPro was asking about the value of a called pitch.  This is how I explain it quickly:

A crude way to think about the run value of a strike or ball is this way:

The run value of a walk is around +.30 runs, and the run value of a strikeout is around -.27 runs.

So, going from an 0-0 count to a 4-0 count means that each called ball is +.075 runs.

Going from 0-0 to 0-3 means that each called strike is -.09 runs.

That means that switching a called ball to a called strike is going from being at a +.075 run state to a -.09 run state, or around a .16 run swing.

So, getting that one call every game for 150 games means .16 runs x 150 calls = 24 runs.

This is just a quick crude way to try to frame the expectation.


#1    BrianK      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:07

Twas I who expressed surprise that one switched call per game adds up to ~ 20 runs per season. Great explanation...thank you!


#2          (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:13

Here is a link for the value per count:

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2008/02/writing_about_t.php


#3    Harry      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:17

Here’s an alternate version ... I really need to update this ... http://www.cubsfx.com/2009/06/updating-linear-weight-values-by-count.html


#4    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:31

And a great piece by Craig Burley:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-importance-of-strike-one-part-two/


#5    Dan Turkenkopf      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:34

It varies depending on what you’re looking at too.

The basic run value of switching from a ball to a strike is .16 but because umpires “miss” at different rates at different counts, the true value of an umpire “miss” is around .146 runs.

Finally, if you just look at called pitches close to the edge of the zone it’s .140 runs.

See here: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/4/24/459913/a-strike-is-a-strike-right#

and here:
http://blog.stealingfirst.com/2008/05/01/revisiting-the-run-value-of-switching-a-ball-to-a-strike/


#6    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:45

Also, Phil Birnbaum wrote a great piece as well about 5 years ago.  Hopefully he’ll come around and tell us which issue.

Phil: a table of contents for the site would be pretty cool…


#7    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 11:47

By the way, we can jsut use 0.15 runs as the standard.  If we’re talking about say 150 called pitches, then saying .14 runs per pitch means 21 runs overall, and saying .16 runs means 24 runs.

Given the uncertainty level to begin with, not to mention the differing values by count, then it’s no big deal what you really use.  You’ll still get a similar answer.


#8    dave smyth      (see all posts) 2011/08/25 (Thu) @ 18:09

If you analyze a PA by run values for every pitch, you come away with the conclusion that a batter should swing at all strikes and take all the balls. While the latter might be generally true, it’s hard to make a serious case that the former is. The most ‘evolved’ batters seem to tailor their approach to an overall PA viewpoint instead of an individual pitch viewpoint, which means that they strategically choose to take a certain proportion of strikes.

The easiest example is the first pitch. IIRC, the pitcher throws a strike 50 to 60% of the time. Yet the batter only swings 25 to 30% of the time.

Now, if you could further divide strikes into categories of pitcher strikes, average strikes, and fat pitches, with attention to the count, plus obvious balls and borderline balls--you might have a good foundation for evaluating pitch-by-pitch.


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