THE BOOK cover
The Unwritten Book is Finally Written!
An in-depth analysis of: The sacrifice bunt, batter/pitcher matchups, the intentional base on balls, optimizing a batting lineup, hot and cold streaks, clutch performance, platooning strategies, and much more.
Read Excerpts & Customer Reviews

Buy The Book from Amazon


SABR101 required reading if you enter this site. Check out the Sabermetric Wiki. And interesting baseball books.
MOST RECENT ARTICLES
MAIL : You ask | We say

Advanced


THE BOOK--Playing The Percentages In Baseball

<< Back to main

Tuesday, June 09, 2009

Two-thirds of what I’ve been asking for is double what I want

By Tangotiger, 11:18 AM

This exchange between Poz and Bill James is more like it.

At the same time, the awareness of “doing whatever you can to get on base”, among some hitters and some teams, was much more “naked” than it is now. In modern baseball it is considered bad form to specialize in walking, and nobody really does. But if you go back to 1900, 1910, 1920, there were a certain number of players—one or two on each team—who very clearly understood that their job was to get on base any way they could for the big hitters on the team. These people walked 115 times a year in large part BECAUSE nobody was paying attention to how often they walked.

Starting in 1901:


This is the
- number of players with at least 250 PA
- standard deviation of walks per PA
- average number of walks per PA
- percentage of players with at least .15 walks per PA

year    n     SD      Avg      highBB 
1901    144     0.031      0.065      0.021 
1902    141     0.030      0.067      0.014 
1903    143     0.031      0.065      0.007 
1904    150     0.028      0.063      0.007 
1905    151     0.030      0.069      0.026 
1906    143     0.031      0.071      0.014 
1907    144     0.030      0.070      0.035 
1908    145     0.028      0.067      0.007 
1909    152     0.029      0.073      0.007 
1910    145     0.031      0.084      0.034 
1911    146     0.032      0.086      0.034 
1912    142     0.033      0.084      0.049 
1913    141     0.033      0.083      0.035 
1914    216     0.030      0.083      0.019 
1915    220     0.034      0.082      0.032 
1916    145     0.030      0.080      0.007 
1917    144     0.028      0.077      
-   
1918    125     0.033      0.079      0.032 
1919    138     0.030      0.074      0.014 
1920    151     0.030      0.074      0.007 
1921    148     0.031      0.074      0.020 
1922    152     0.028      0.079      0.020 
1923    153     0.033      0.082      0.026 
1924    147     0.033      0.080      0.027 
1925    154     0.032      0.085      0.019 
1926    154     0.034      0.085      0.039 
1927    145     0.034      0.081      0.048 
1928    149     0.035      0.083      0.040 
1929    146     0.036      0.085      0.055 
1930    159     0.033      0.080      0.031 
1931    152     0.032      0.082      0.039 
1932    148     0.034      0.081      0.041 
1933    147     0.032      0.079      0.020 
1934    159     0.037      0.085      0.044 
1935    152     0.035      0.084      0.039 
1936    152     0.037      0.088      0.086 
1937    153     0.032      0.090      0.039 
1938    146     0.037      0.094      0.103 
1939    161     0.033      0.092      0.062 
1940    151     0.035      0.091      0.060 
1941    148     0.036      0.096      0.074 
1942    150     0.034      0.095      0.073 
1943    153     0.034      0.093      0.046 
1944    151     0.031      0.085      0.026 
1945    146     0.035      0.091      0.055 
1946    164     0.037      0.095      0.067 
1947    150     0.039      0.101      0.113 
1948    164     0.037      0.106      0.116 
1949    156     0.041      0.107      0.141 
1950    149     0.036      0.106      0.101 
1951    145     0.036      0.101      0.069 
1952    150     0.034      0.097      0.067 
1953    149     0.033      0.095      0.054 
1954    155     0.036      0.098      0.090 
1955    155     0.038      0.100      0.110 
1956    149     0.036      0.098      0.087 
1957    151     0.035      0.088      0.046 
1958    152     0.033      0.090      0.039 
1959    152     0.031      0.090      0.033 
1960    152     0.034      0.090      0.059 
1961    182     0.033      0.095      0.077 
1962    191     0.033      0.092      0.058 
1963    197     0.027      0.081      0.010 
1964    202     0.031      0.080      0.025 
1965    191     0.029      0.086      0.031 
1966    192     0.032      0.081      0.016 
1967    195     0.030      0.084      0.021 
1968    193     0.032      0.079      0.026 
1969    231     0.036      0.095      0.069 
1970    238     0.037      0.096      0.101 
1971    233     0.036      0.088      0.060 
1972    227     0.034      0.089      0.053 
1973    251     0.035      0.090      0.060 
1974    241     0.036      0.089      0.062 
1975    246     0.036      0.092      0.069 
1976    250     0.034      0.086      0.036 
1977    263     0.034      0.087      0.042 
1978    262     0.033      0.088      0.050 
1979    262     0.034      0.086      0.046 
1980    273     0.034      0.082      0.033 
1981    199     0.034      0.085      0.045 
1982    266     0.032      0.085      0.034 
1983    266     0.032      0.087      0.041 
1984    268     0.032      0.085      0.026 
1985    259     0.033      0.088      0.050 
1986    269     0.032      0.091      0.041 
1987    268     0.034      0.091      0.060 
1988    270     0.031      0.084      0.026 
1989    271     0.031      0.086      0.033 
1990    270     0.033      0.089      0.030 
1991    271     0.035      0.089      0.059 
1992    265     0.035      0.088      0.060 
1993    286     0.035      0.088      0.063 
1994    238     0.035      0.093      0.059 
1995    264     0.037      0.094      0.068 
1996    284     0.036      0.092      0.049 
1997    285     0.036      0.091      0.063 
1998    301     0.033      0.090      0.047 
1999    309     0.035      0.096      0.074 
2000    312     0.036      0.099      0.080 
2001    300     0.035      0.086      0.050 
2002    302     0.037      0.089      0.053 
2003    309     0.034      0.086      0.055 
2004    306     0.036      0.088      0.052 
2005    313     0.031      0.083      0.032 
2006    310     0.035      0.087      0.052 
2007    306     0.033      0.087      0.039 
2008    314     0.032      0.089      0.038

#1    ubelmann      (see all posts) 2009/06/09 (Tue) @ 13:44

The last column is pretty noisy, but it starts to look more interesting if you plot the 5-year running average.  Various low/high points:

2%—~1900 (was there missing data for the early years?)
3.5%—~1912
11%—~1949 (WWII probably hurt the pitching pool)
2%—~1965 (big strike zone?)
7%—1972
4%—~1980-90
6%—1994-2000

And since 2000, it’s trended down towards 4%.


#2    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2009/06/09 (Tue) @ 14:14

The mean league rate in 1999-2000 was higher than it is today.  So, it’s alot easier to get extreme players above the .15 BB per PA threshhold when the overall league rate is higher.  For example, if the league mean rate is .14, then you will find almost 50% of the players at the “high” rate.

I could have asked instead the number of players that are at least 2 SD above the league mean.  That would have been better…


#3    ubelmann      (see all posts) 2009/06/09 (Tue) @ 15:14

For our purposes here, it seems adequate to compare to the same average each season.  For me, at least, I was mostly interested to see when there were high volume walkers (relative to historical levels) at different points through history, not whether or not there were a lot of extreme outliers in any given season.

James seems to assert that at a certain point in history, the walk was deemed to be cowardly, and that sort of attitude would intuitively move the league average downward, so if we are trying to measure that claim, I don’t think we want to look at outliers relative to an in-season mean.


#4    ubelmann      (see all posts) 2009/06/09 (Tue) @ 15:17

Also, James talks about specializing in walks, and if we’re looking for those walk specialists, we probably want to look at something like BB/(H+BB), and see how many players in any given year beat a certain threshold for that statistic.  Or maybe even BB/(TB+BB).


#5          (see all posts) 2009/06/09 (Tue) @ 16:03

Here is a link if you want to read the FC Lane article on the value of a walk from Baseball Magazine in 1917

http://www.geocities.com/cyrilmorong@sbcglobal.net/LaneBaseonBalls.htm

Lane article


#6    Hizouse      (see all posts) 2009/06/10 (Wed) @ 11:28

Cyril--thanks for the link.  A great read.

Early DIPS theory: “If a fast ball or curve is hit why it is only the fortunes of war.”


#7          (see all posts) 2009/06/10 (Wed) @ 11:40

Great, glad you liked it. Sure does look like Early DIPS theory.


Page 1 of 1 pages


Name (required)
E-Mail (optional; WILL be published)
Website (optional)

<< Back to main


Latest...

COMMENTS

May 25 15:12
Do pitcher’s reach back for velocity when needed?

May 25 15:02
Pete Palmer’s new book: Basic Ball

May 25 14:44
What sabermetrics is NOT

May 25 13:04
“Why Kickstarter works”

May 25 12:51
Chad Curtis

May 25 12:40
Largest demonstration in Canadian history?

May 25 11:32
Howard Stern

May 25 11:26
Lack of hustle during a game

May 25 10:58
Rooting for laundry

May 25 02:38
NFLPA lawsuit against collusion