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Tuesday, July 07, 2009

Talent disparity inter-conference in sports leagues

By Tangotiger, 03:11 PM

Tim Marchman:

With the exception of the NFL, where four of its last five champions come from the AFC, regular-season dominance doesn’t seem to matter in the postseason. Since 2005, teams from the stronger halves have won just seven of 13 possible championships in baseball, basketball and hockey.

No reason to exclude the NFL.  That’s 11 wins out of 18 championships, for a win% of 61%, for teams in the stronger conferences.  Marchman also noted these inter-conference regular season win%:
.410 NHL (East v West)
.423 NFL (NFC v AFC)
.434 MLB (NL v AL)
.448 NBA (East v West)

That’s around a .430 win% for the weaker conferences.  No one seems to care that we have lopsided conferences in every league.  I’ve talked in the past how we should have reorganizations of conferences on a regular schedule, say like every 4 or 8 years.  You can hold a draft/drawing like in the World Cup.  No reason that Blue Jays and Orioles have to be in the same division for eternity, is there?


#1          (see all posts) 2009/07/07 (Tue) @ 18:59

Did the author note how many games were in each conference rivalry?  Maybe we can get use some Bayesian method to get an estimate of the “true” disparity in talent.


#2    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2009/07/07 (Tue) @ 20:45

In a thread last year, I noted the percentage of interconference games in each league.  It was something like 10% in MLB, 20% in NHL, NBA.  Can’t remember NFL, but it could have been around 20% as well.

I think if you click the “football” link above, you might be able to find the thread.


#3    Patriot      (see all posts) 2009/07/07 (Tue) @ 23:15

NFL teams play 4 interconference games (a complete series against one other division), so it’s 25%.


#4    Patriot      (see all posts) 2009/07/07 (Tue) @ 23:32

To expound on the NFL, the breakdown between conference/non-conference games used to be weirder.  Now there are eight 4-team divisions, and you play each team in one division from the other conference (4 games), each team in your division twice (6 games), leaving 6 games against non-division opponents from your conference.  This means you end up playing 10/15 = 67% of the teams in your conference, and 6/13 = 46% of non-division, intraconference teams.

For a few years, though, there were 31 teams, which created some strange stuff.  The AFC Central had six teams, meaning there were 10 intradivisional games.  That left just 6 games to be played between non-division and interconference foes, and so in 1999-2001, the Browns played 3 games versus the NFC and 3 versus the AFC East and West, plus the 10 divisional games.  So while the percentage of interconference games was lower, they were only facing 9/16 = 56% of the teams in the conference, and 3/10 = 30% of non-division, intraconference teams.


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