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Tuesday, September 04, 2007

Swing and miss

By Tangotiger, 10:27 AM

More great stuff from John Walsh

The pitch-by-pitch approach is one of those projects that I’ve had on the backburner for a long time.  It becomes an exercise in how a batter and pitcher should approach each count, based on the skill ranges of himself and his opponent, and game theory (or expectations that everyone has, and how to leverage that).  If you focus on what John quoted Ted as saying, “the single most important aspect of hitting was getting a good pitch to hit.” That’s the simple version.  But, if you try to expand on it, you might have threshhold levels of say +.01 runs at the 0-0 count, +.10 at the 2-0 count, and -.07 at the 0-2 count (all numbers for illustration only).  That is, your strike zone expands and contracts after every pitch.  And, like I said, you’d modify all that based on the particular parameters we have in hand.  It’s all a matter of when you should swing, and how quick you should swing.

On a related topic would be when to bring in your ace.  Perhaps in the 7th inning, you’d need an LI over 4 to make you think to bring him in.  Maybe in the 8th inning, that goes down to 3.  With 5 outs to go, you might want 2.7, with 4 outs, you might want 2.1.  In the 9th, maybe 1.8.  If he didn’t pitch in two days, maybe you drop all those numbers by 25%, etc.  (All numbers for illustration only.)

It’s all a question of optimization, with a whole set of dynamic variables, which themselves may be hard to quantify.


#1    Peter Jensen      (see all posts) 2007/09/04 (Tue) @ 11:57

It would seem to me that the two things you want to avoid as a batter are striking out and weakly hitting a ball into fair territory.  Every batter should want to avoid swinging at balls out of the strike zone, but an interesting question is when a batter does swing at a ball out of the strike zone with less than two strikes is it an advantage to contact the ball or miss it.  In other words is avoiding a weakly hit fair ball worth going down a strike in the count.


#2    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/09/04 (Tue) @ 13:08

On a 0-1 count, your OBP/SLG to the end of the PA is .276/.372, which is around -.04 runs per PA:
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/hitting_by_count/

Taking a strike will put you to -.085 runs per PA:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-importance-of-strike-one-part-two/

The equivalent OBP/SLG for swinging (and making contact) for a -.085 runs per PA is around a .220/.320 line.

So, if you have a pitch outside the strike zone, and are wondering whether to make contact with it or swing/take, then an average hitter should purposefully swing-and-miss, if he thinks he’ll get a worse than .220/.320 line.

This is all based on averages of course, and would depend on the other parameters I noted.

John is reporting a .278/.394 line for all pitches, for contacted pitches outside the strike zone.  My guess is that if John were to report on pitches by count, that we’d get something very close to the breakeven I’m noting above.

That is, on average, if a pitch is outside the strike zone, if a hitter has decided to swing, a hitter would just as well make contact or not.  The smarter hitters will of course decide not to swing in the first place.


#3    Jacob Jackson      (see all posts) 2007/09/05 (Wed) @ 16:07

I wrote this in response to John’s article on Ballhype, but I think Peter’s comment brings it into question too:

It’s possible that hitting a ball weakly into fair territory isn’t a horrible thing for all hitters.

If Ichiro (great bat control and speed) has decided that he can somewhat consistently hit the top half of a high pitch, beat the ball straight into the ground, and then leg out the high chopper, that’s not a bad outcome for him.

Let’s say he knew that he could leg out 45% of his infield high choppers, and he also knew that 90% percent of the time, if he received a high fastball over the plate and made contact, he could hit a high infield chopper, if that was his goal.

That would still give him an excellent BABIP handling that PARTICULAR type of ball (the slightly-above belt high fastball over the plate).

In fact, if he had decided that there were several pitches in the strike zone that he couldn’t do even THAT well with, it would make a lot of sense statistically for him to swing at that particular type of ball, perhaps even regardless of the count.

Note:  I don’t know how Ichiro handles high pitches, or his BABIP on infield grounders...my point is only to suggest that we could easily envision a scenario/type of hitter for whom it SYSTEMATICALLY makes sense to swing at a ball - specifically, a particular TYPE (location/pitch/speed) of ball. 

Certainly it’s an issue to study further as the sample size grows and the data becomes more definitive. I’m thankful that people like Tom, Sal and John are asking the questions and looking at the data.


#4    John Walsh      (see all posts) 2007/09/06 (Thu) @ 10:07

My original plan was actually to assign a run value per pitch, similar to what Tango is doing in #2 above. However, that’s a bigger project than I had time for right now.

That it might be better to miss than to hit the ball for some pitches is an interesting idea. I will definitely have a look at that at some point.

For many of the things that folks have done with the pitch-f/x data, we need much more data to look at individual batters with any degree of confidence. But, we can look at general tendencies summed over batters (or pitchers) with the data we have.


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