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Monday, September 05, 2011

Re-examining the sac bunt by a pitcher with 1 out and runners on 1st and 3rd

By , 02:01 AM

Last night, in the PHI/FLO game, Anibal Sanchez was asked to lay down a sac bunt with runners on 1st and 3rd and 1 out in the second or third inning.  No one batted an eyelash (but me). You see this all the time.  It is SOP.

In The Book, in the chapter on sac bunting (if you haven’t read it, what the heck are you waiting for?), we say that a pitcher should rarely bunt with runners on 1 and 3 and 1 out.  To me, that makes perfect intuitive sense, even from the standpoint of a manager, media analyst, fan etc.  By sacrificing, you give up most opportunities for a run to score on that play (via a hit, sac fly, non-DP ground out) and you give up an opportunity for a walk, even though that rarely occurs.  In exchange, you only move a runner from first to second, which is not that valuable when giving up an out when there is already 1 out (we are going to assume that a sac bunt means one runner advances and the batter is out), which is why a position player, even a poor-hitting one, never bunts with a runner on first and 1 out.  In fact, the average RE (using the 99-03 NL run environment) for runners on 1st and 3rd and 2 outs is .509 and with 2nd and 3rd, it is .574, a pick up of only .065 runs.  So a bunt is not THAT much better than a K or other out that does not advance the runner.

Of course, the manager is scared to death of a DP to end the inning.  How often does that happen?  Well, about half of all ground ball outs by pitchers with a runner on 1st and less than 2 outs are DP’s.  About 30% of a pitcher’s PA end in a ground out, so about 15% of the time, they hit into a GDP.  So basically in exchange for moving the runner up at first and avoiding an inning ending DP around 15% of the time, they give up the chance for a walk, hit, sacrifice fly (and of course an ROE, but that can happen with a bunt also), or a ground out where the runner scores.  Again, this doesn’t seem to me to be a fair exchange.  And The Book says that it is not even close.

Let’s look at the data again - roughly.

We’ll assume that the “successful” sacrifice results in runners on 2 and 3 and 2 outs, or an RE of .574.

What happens if the pitcher swings away? 

First we’ll look at all the positive events.  Here are the frequencies and the resultant RE plus any runs that score:

S .125 1.924 (I am conservatively assuming that the runner on 1st only advances 1 base)
D .019 2.404 (I am assuming, again, quite conservatively, that only one run scores)
T .0013 2.985
HR .0013 3.286
BB .034 1.553
ROE .0075 1.924 (again, assuming runners advance only one base)
SF .058 1.239
Ground out, no DP, runner scores: .105 1.287 (I am assuming that 2/3 of the time, runner scores, and 1/3 of the time, he gets thrown out at home.  I am also assuming that half the time the runner on first advances.)

Now, the negative results:

DP (GDP and other DP, including runner thrown out at home on a fly ball out) .163 0
K .348 .509
Fly out and no runners advance .058 .509
LD out and no runners advance .03 .509
Ground out and runner gets thrown out at home (1/3 of all non-DP ground outs) .052 .437

If we add all these RE up, we get: .741

So, as we suspected, it is not even close!  You are at least (I made lots of conservative assumptions, I think) .20 runs better off not attempting a sac bunt with an average hitting pitcher and runners on 1 and 3 and 1 out.  According to The Book, when pitchers did not sacrifice in that situation, an average of .962 runs were scored, much larger than our expected .741. That is likely because these are the better hitting pitchers, the defense was probably somewhat surprised (resulting in more hits), and the hitting environment was probably high as well.

So how much does this egregious mistake cost teams?  It looks like managers actually bunt around half the time in these situations and that occurs around 1.5 time per team (in the NL) per year.  That is a cost of at least .3 runs per year, probably closer to .4 or .5.  Not much, but still, in the scheme of things, it is a lot. Given that a win costs around 4 million dollars, a manager should be fined $40,000 dollars every time he asks his pitcher to bunt with 1 out and runners on 1 and 3! 


#1    Lex Logan      (see all posts) 2011/09/05 (Mon) @ 16:39

Why does sacrificing give up any opportunity for a walk? Don’t pitchers sometimes draw a walk? It’s not a sucicide squeeze where the pitcher must offer at anything—don’t the runners wait until the bunt is down to advance? And does the runner on 3rd ever score? Even if that’s not the plan, I would think it could happen on an especially good bunt. For that matter, the pitcher sometimes is safe and sometimes the fielders throw the ball away or everyone is safe on a (failed) fielder’s choice.

In fact, aren’t you repeating the Palmer/Thorn mistake here—comparing the possible results from swinging away with the intended result of the sacrifice (.574), rather than the actual results of a sacrifice attempt?


#2    rwperu34      (see all posts) 2011/09/05 (Mon) @ 18:45

How often does the runner from 3rd score? A safety squeeze in this situation seems like a pretty good option.


#3    MGL      (see all posts) 2011/09/05 (Mon) @ 19:20

Lex, yes, yes, and yes.

For pitchers, generally the sum total of a sac attempt is WORSE than the runners (in this case, the runner on first) advancing with an out.  Not so for a position player, as we explain and illustrate in painful detail in The Book.  The reason is that pitchers are typically slower, worse bunters, bunt with 2 strikes (leading to lots of strikeouts), and the infield is playing way up expecting the bunt.  There are occasional walks with a bunt attempt, but not many because: The batter tends to bunt at pitches just outside the zone, the pitcher tends to throw more strikes (if he knows the batter is bunting), and the batter tends to put the ball in play earlier in the count. 

A safety squeeze is not a bad idea.  You see that sometimes.  You also see the suicide squeeze sometimes.  You sometimes see a “go if you can” from the runner at third on a bunt. That happened in the COL game today.

There are lots of options.  A sac bunt where the runner on third is supposed to stay put is by far the worst one…


#4    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/09/05 (Mon) @ 22:03

http://www.tangotiger.net/re24.html

When you have a runner on 3B only and 1 out, the RE is .989.  With 2 outs, it’s .385.  So, giving up an out and keeping the runner on 3B (and thereby foregoing the chance at good stuff like SF or other options to score the runner on 3B with an out) is a whopper of -.60 runs.

It is such a huge shift, that you better get something big out of it.

Moving a runner from 1B to 2B and being at 2 outs is +.10 runs.

That’s with an average batter of course.  So, a -.50 run shift.

Yes, with a pitcher at bat, the value of having a runner on 3B with 1 out isn’t that great.  Yes, all true.  So, instead of the guy having a .989 RE, it would be .60 or .70 something.  It’s still a huge dropoff to allow it to go from runner on 3B with 1 out to 3B and 2 outs.  Gaining the runner from 1B to 2B is hardly the ideal tradeoff for that.

I suppose there is a breakeven point where you WOULD do that trade, that the pitcher is such a bad hitter that the runner on 3B and 1 out just is not that much more than 3B and 2 outs, and so, advancing the runner from 1B to 2B is a good tradeoff.

I’d like to see some aspiring saberist work that out for us.


#5    Michael K      (see all posts) 2011/09/06 (Tue) @ 15:43

You sometimes see a “go if you can” from the runner at third on a bunt.

That reminds me of Tim McCarver’s pet peeve in this situation:

If the pitcher has the directional bunting skill to force the 3Bman to field the bunt, then the lead runner (assuming avg speed) can creep up behind the 3Bman and score with high probability once a throw is made to 1B (or 2B).


#6    Clay Dreslough      (see all posts) 2012/05/22 (Tue) @ 16:34

Wow. I clearly haven’t watched enough baseball, or analyzed enough box scores, because I would probably throw my shoe through my TV if I ever saw a straight sacrifice bunt with runners on 1st and 3rd.

It never even occurred to me to have this as an option in Baseball Mogul. The only choices are ‘Safety Squeeze’ and ‘Suicide Squeeze’.

Now I’m wondering if I need to add it, for “realism”, or if I should leave things as they are in order to prevent any future managers from getting the idea in their head that this might ever be the right call.


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