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Wednesday, February 03, 2010

Proofreading a book

By Tangotiger, 12:56 PM

Easily the worst job in the book cycle.  I remember when the three of us finished our chapters, after several read-throughs, and typos fixes, etc.  We were all satisfied that each chapter was proofed perfectly.  I put them all together, type-set it, really made sure everything flowed right.  And then we did one final proofread.  We found one THOUSAND errors.  I was extremely disappointed.  So, I fixed every single one.  Took a month I think.  And we did one final-final proofread.  Two HUNDRED more errors.  After those were fixed, we did one final-final-final proofread.  This time, it was under a hundred.  Those were fixed, and we did no more proofreads.  And after printing, we find one right in the foreword. 

Basically, anyone who complains about typos in a book is being (unwittingly) a big jerk.  Yes, I understand that you spend 15$ or 20$ for whatever book you bought, but the people who are doing the work are (almost likely) being meticulous and professional.  Not to mention that in many cases (like ours), this is a hobby, where we had small goals.  Being paid, essentially, at below the minimum wage means that you need to not be so tough on those producing the books.

Indeed, because of the enormous amount of time we spent on proofreading the book, I am so turned off in writing another one.  It’s simply not worth it to spend an extra month or two to make something go from 95% the way I want it to 99%.

I don’t know who does the proofing for THT or BPro, but thank them for cleaning up almost all the mess.  Don’t be so picky as to point out that there’s a piece of lint that’s lying in a corner somewhere.


#1          (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 13:21

My wife works as an editor, so I am well aware the difficulties of proofreading.  As such, I have only once complained once about an error in a book: when a sportswriter’s collection of essays on his favorite sports memories included an essay about his emotional attachment to the “David Ramirez” led Red Sox of 2004.


#2    patrick dicaprio      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 13:57

amen, tom. having just edited our 160 page draft guide all by myself, as well as every single article on our site all alone, it is very annoying when people say “you misspelled jeff francouer.” walk a mile in our shoes....


#3          (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 14:03

I find proofreading/editing fun, *shrug*


#4    Xeifrank      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 14:36

Just curious if your guys run some kind of automatic spellchecker and grammer checker similiar to the won Microsoft Word has.  Or if you guys are hand editing - or some combanation of the too?  smile
vr, Xei


#5    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 15:01

We did all the work in MS Word, including the index and table of contents, spell and grammer checker, etc.

And then converted to Adobe PDF.


#6          (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 15:29

There is a difference between the occasional typo and “they’ll figure it out.” Perfection is impossible, but competent proofreading is a sign of respect for the reader. Definitely worth a couple of WAR. Tango, if you ever have something you want proofed, I assume you can see my e-mail address there. Unbeatable rates, literally.


#7    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 16:11

Right, and I’m suggesting that the reader should give the benefit of the doubt.  The reflex to be annoyed at typos should be held in check.

Indeed, there was one passage in The Book where the publisher completely mangled it.  It had nothing to do with us as writers.  We wrote it right, and they cut/pasted it or whatever, wrong.  That’s another thing: don’t presume that it’s the writer that needs help from the editor; in some cases, it’s the opposite.

Thanks for the offer!


#8    Newcomer      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 20:30

I also love proofreading and would be very happy to help out should you publish again.


#9    Ryan JL      (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 22:33

"emotional attachment to the “David Ramirez” led Red Sox of 2004. “

Don’t you think this is an intentional portmanteau of David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez?


#10          (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 23:05

I proofread a scientific journal and it’s pretty tough. Not only do I try to track down typos, I frequently end up rewriting big passages because most of the authors are non-native english speakers.


#11          (see all posts) 2010/02/03 (Wed) @ 23:46

Crowd-proof it?

Make a password protected bit of the site, toss up the chapters on there, have your biggest fans read a chapter each (or whatever) and be allowed to mark any mistakes they find in a wiki-format or whatnot.

More eyes = Less mistakes = Fewer headaches

And I think we all know that most of them would end up buying the book anyway, or you would have to charge far more for the same amount of proofreading than you would for their share of book revenues if they didn’t buy it.


#12    Fargo      (see all posts) 2010/02/04 (Thu) @ 12:39

I proofread my manuscripts very carefully, using various methods—not just reading word by word but also reading aloud, searching for common errors, etc.

But once something has been published I don’t dare read it, because I just KNOW I’m going to see an error somewhere.


#13    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/04 (Thu) @ 12:43

Yes, there are two things that help me in the proofreading:

1 - read it aloud, as you mentioned

2 - print it out; basically, seeing the words in a different context forces you to read it a different way; this one to me was a big help


#14          (see all posts) 2010/02/04 (Thu) @ 23:40

Reading the sentences in reverse order (last word first) also lets you pick out spelling/usage errors because your brain doesn’t ‘expect’ the right usage/spelling to be there.


#15    Ed D.      (see all posts) 2010/02/05 (Fri) @ 15:32

RE: Tango/7, you are soooooooo right about typos being EDITED INTO otherwise flawless pieces.  It is perhaps my single biggest peeve as a writer.


#16    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/05 (Fri) @ 15:42

Ed, there was even a recent piece where I said that Chavez played for the Expos, and then the piece came out that Chavez played for the Nationals.  I was shocked, especially because I’ve been so vocal on my blog about keeping the two separate.

The editor explained that he changed Expos to Expos/Nationals (which is technically true… he played 7 games for the Nats).  And then some other editor shortened it to Nationals.  I caught the mistake, and they fixed it pronto.


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