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Monday, November 12, 2007

Peter Gammons

By Tangotiger, 11:19 AM

I was a huge Redsox fan as a kid, and Gammons’ book (Beyond the Sixth Game) was one of the very first baseball books I ever read.  I loved it.  (My first baseball book was “How the Expos Almost Won The Pennant”.) Anyway, when we came up with our shortlist of baseball people we were going to hand out review copies of The Book, Gammons was the second on the list (after Neyer).  I managed to get his email address, and his Blackberry-ed me right away.  He sounded very enthused.  Basically, he’s perceived as a “friend of sabermetrics”.

Recently, he said this:

Pedroia gave up his scholarship at Arizona State to free up money to sign a much-needed pitcher, so when the Sun Devils reached the College World Series, coaches and players had “DP” on their caps in honor of their leader who never got to Omaha. The sabermetrics guys in their garages never understand these things.

If you read the sentence in its grammatical sense, that is, of the sabermetric guys who are in their garages they never understand these things, then that’s likely a true statement.  But, how many people in the world is that?  Two, three?  Clearly, that’s not what he meant.  He meant: since the sabermetric guys are in their garages they never understand these things.  What an insult.  I love baseball.  And I’d love it, even if we never kept score of anything.  When I was a teenager, we’d play double-headers and triple-headers.  It’s the love of baseball that drives sabermetricians.  We’d give up our garages and computers if we could play every day.  Of mainstream media with their heads up their @sses, they never understand these things.


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#1          (see all posts) 2007/11/12 (Mon) @ 18:40

While PG has certainly ‘lost a bit off his fastball’ and a bit of the edge he used to have.  I tend to beleive a lot of this is him being neutered by the the world wide leader. With 6-ish channels worth of time to fill, plus web presence PG and others are spread thinner than the info they have to distribute. As such you see Peter peddling rumors and BS that never would have made his’Diamond Notes’ column from the Sunday Globe back in the day.  I also think Gammons plays the ‘old school guy card’ occasionally in order to keep some of the ‘old school’ baseball people on speed dial and willing to give him info.

As a side note, how many of today’s GM’s who grew up in New England were introduced to baseball via the ‘Diamond Notes’ columns? 6? 8?


#2          (see all posts) 2007/11/13 (Tue) @ 00:03

Normally I’d be upset about such a cheap pot shot, but my interest in DIPS has rendered me incapable of feeling human emotion.


#3    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/11/23 (Fri) @ 12:32

Do these writers not know that we’re their readers?

http://crashburnalley.com/?p=47

Conlin just responded with what may be the quote of the decade:

The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers. In Colonial times, bloggers were called “Pamphleteers.” They hung on street corners handing them out to passersby. Now, they hang out on electronic street corners, hoping somebody mouses on to their pretentious sites. Different medium, same MO. Shakespeare accidentally summed up the genre best with these words from a MacBeth soliloquy: “. . .a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. . .”

I would think this may be on his tombstone wink


#4    Mike Fast      (see all posts) 2008/01/03 (Thu) @ 19:44

Which one of you guys keeps peeing in Gammons’ Cheerios?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof08/news/story?id=3169953

I am torn on this. Raines, Rickey Henderson and Wade Boggs were the best of the ‘80s and early ‘90s, and while some of our sabermetric fellows do not believe players are humans, Raines made every team he was on better, not just because he was such a good player, but because his effervescent personality made teammates relax and play better; you’d go out to the cage and players would all be following him around.


#5    Rally      (see all posts) 2008/01/03 (Thu) @ 20:45

I commented on that one about a week ago at BTF.  Mystifying, considering that its us sabernerds who are most on board with Tim Raines going to the hall.

Maybe Gammons is trying to persuade the neanderthal contingent of the BWAA, “Lets vote in Raines and teach these geeks the value of intangibles”, if so and it works I can forgive him.


#6    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/01/03 (Thu) @ 21:26

For all the clutch talk that these guys talk about, Raines is one of the best clutch hitters of our generation.  It’s surprising that none of the mainstream clutch proponents brings it up.

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I don’t know what the heck is up with Gammons.  He turned around on Raines.  Just a matter of time before he comes back on board with us.



#8    Mike Fast      (see all posts) 2008/01/23 (Wed) @ 02:19

A good post by Gammons at his ESPN blog:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3206971&type=blogEntry

He appears to be trying to extend an olive branch to the blogosphere and be a little more even-handed on the subject.


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