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Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Outcomes by fastball speed

By Tangotiger, 01:42 PM

Jeff presents some interesting data.

This is a perfect example of a sampling bias.  While it looks like this is a complete population of pitchers, the reality is that the MLB pitchers is a sample of all pitchers.  Notably, if your fastball speed is below 90mph, then the only way to be a MLB pitcher is to be able to do something else well (location, movement, other pitches, etc).

Ultimately, the bias is so strong as to render the data presented as applying only to those pitchers who happen to be in MLB, and you can’t apply it to all pitchers who throw at that speed.


#1    pm      (see all posts) 2011/10/18 (Tue) @ 19:06

Can’t you do some analysis of pitcher’s fastball by how far it’s off their average? Let’s say you have a pitcher named Strasburg. His average fastball is 96 MPH. his range of fastballs might be between 93-101. Compare the results of his slower fastballs to faster fastballs, you can even adjust for location and movement.


#2    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/10/18 (Tue) @ 19:18

You can definitely do that.  You’d control for the location, movement, count, and sequencing of pitches (at the very least the previous pitch’s characteristics).


#3    Aaron Delisio      (see all posts) 2011/10/19 (Wed) @ 01:27

Notably, if your fastball speed is below 90mph, then the only way to be a MLB pitcher is to be able to do something else well (location, movement, other pitches, etc).

Or throw with your left hand. I bet most of those guys below 90 mph are southpaws. If he simply split up the numbers for each handedness there probably would be a more consistent trend line.


#4          (see all posts) 2011/10/19 (Wed) @ 07:05

Tom - There is definitely some bias and I should have accounted for that.  I was just wondering what the numbers actually were after hearing that some announcer mention that Texeria can’t hit faster fastball so I created at least a baseline data set.

#3 Good idea.  I may end up with a lack of samples at the extreme ends of the data, but I will look at the 4 pitcher-hitter handedness combinations later.


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