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Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Out of the Park 2007

By Tangotiger, 03:29 PM

OOTP 2007 is a baseball computer game.  A few weeks ago, I was offered access to a pre-release version.  At the risk of sounding like a classic Phil Hartman (RIP) character, I’m just a simple guy, and the enormous number of parameters under my control scared and confused me.  But, for serious gamers, the game’s got tons of fans.  But, that’s not why I’m here.  Apparently, something I did made it into the game:
http://www.ootpbaseball.net/clubhouse.php?view=news&gid=26&id=1304

Previous versions of the game, however, had every skill rising and falling in a standard umbrella pattern. OOTPv2007 is different. For the first time, it is modeling each skill as a separate component.  Quite honestly, one of the biggest challenges that I looked at when I began testing player aging was to determine what baseline to use to assess quality. In the end I focused on work published by TangoTiger.

I’ve been meaning to update those charts that he references.  Hopefully I can get to that at some point soon.  Also, if anyone wants to make use of my Win Expectancy (WE) and Leverage Index (LI), as Fangraphs is using them, just ask.  I grant a free licence, as long as you don’t charge your readers/customers (extra) for them.


#1    Luke Gofannon      (see all posts) 2007/03/28 (Wed) @ 19:54

Hmm, I always figured you as more of Diamond Mind guy.


#2    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/03/29 (Thu) @ 08:09

I think I would be, but I’m not a gamer.  Last time I played would be 20 years ago.  I used to play Strat (good), Replay (so-so), and Extra Innings (good).  The most fun was a CFL game… I forgot the name, but it was very well done.  There was also a Lombardi game which was good too.


#3    Kent Bonham      (see all posts) 2007/04/02 (Mon) @ 11:13

FYI, the banner ad for OOTP 2007 that I’ve seen running on BP’s website markets the game as having “Tango-based player development.”


#4    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/04/02 (Mon) @ 12:16

Interesting.  I see they also said “VORP-driven AI” and “DIPS”.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/pfm/


#5    James Running Wolf      (see all posts) 2007/04/03 (Tue) @ 08:51

OOTP uses DIPS as its basic play model and has painstakingly correct aging curves. Since Diamond Mind only does season replays, OOTP 2007 is the most comprehensive and best GM/manager based simulation available period. Think I’m kidding you? Try out the free demo for yourself.


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