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Friday, August 18, 2006

More WPA (WA minus LA) calculations

By Tangotiger, 01:36 PM

This is pure mechanical stuff.  Enter at your own risk.


This was written at Fanhome, and is being reprinted here, unedited.

WPA is what it is.  It’s a reflection of the change in win probability, *given* the context.  It’s a purely marginal impact.  While the differential of WA and LA will be directly related to the differential of W and L, there is no reason whatsoever that the relationship has to be 1:1 with no intercept.  That is, there’s no reason to make them perfectly equal.

If you want to attempt the conversion, fine.  But, I’m not sure it’s going to show what you intended to show, whatever it is that you wanted to show.

If you want to produce a WPAB (WPA above bench), there’s no reason to do any conversion into something else.  If you want to assign a bench level of .300, this is how you do the conversion:

WA-LA = (W-L)/2 ... this is by definition
WA+LA = (W+L)*2.8 ... this is a useful shortcut

So, a .300 win% level translates to what in WPA terms?

WA-LA = (.300-.700)/2 = -.2
WA+LA = 2.8

Add the two equations and you get:
2 WA = 2.6
WA = 1.3
LA = 1.5

WA/(WA+LA)= 1.3/2.8 = .464 ... that corresponds to a .300 win percent level.

As a practical example, let’s take a league average hitter, say Chone Figgins last year.

His WA and LA were both around 13.  So, WA=LA=13 for him.
WA+LA=26.  If we take .464 of that, we get benchWA=12, and benchLA=14.

So, his WPA is WA-LA=0
The WPbench is 12-14=-2

So, his WPA above bench is +2.

Essentially, the bench level is 2 wins below average (if you take the .300 team level as bench level… meaning a .400 offense and .400 defense).

***

Each teams’ players has an advancement in some direction (WA+LA) of around 2.8 or so per game.  If you included fielding, I’d guess it would surpass 3.

Easy enough to see.  Just look at one half inning.  3 outs = .08 LA, which of course means that your 1.5 hits or walks will total .08 = WA.  So, each half-inning has .16 of advancement, on a PA-by-PA basis.  .16 x 18 half-innings = 2.88 per game, for each team.

(Another way: Remember that in Part 1 of LI, I reported the average change per event has .0346.  With around 80 events per team, that gives us .0346 x 80 = 2.77)

***

You may also decide that starters and relievers have different “bench” lines.

Remembering again that nine innings has 1.4 movements, then the league average pitcher would have a WA of 0.7 and LA of 0.7.

As we know, it’s easier to relieve than to start.  Put a league average pitcher in the role of starter, and he would come in with around -.03 wins relative to all pitchers.  So, his WA/LA would be .685/.715 .  And as a reliever, this average pitcher would be +.06 wins, or .73/.67

Now, where would you put the bench line?  I’d probably put it at around -.08 wins relative to average (.420 pitcher, with average offense and fielding), or reducing the WA by .04 and increasing the LA by .04.

So, our benchlines for each role:
starters: .645/.755
relievers:.690/.710

The WA/(WA+LA) for each one is:
starter: .461
reliever: .493

As a practical example, let’s look at 2003.  Eric Gagne was +7.3 in WPA.  That was +12.4 and -5.1.  A bench reliever would have been -.2, making Gagne +7.5 relative to Bench.

Jason Schmidt was +5.5, or +15.5 and -10.  A bench starter would have been -2.0.  So, Schmidt above bench is +7.5.

There’s another way to do it, and that’s by using PA*LI*.0346 in place of WA+LA.  For example, Schmidt had 819 TBF, and an LI of .94, so his WA+LA would be 26.6, instead of 25.5.  Gagne would be 306*1.98*.0346 = 21, instead of 17.5.

#1    studes      (see all posts) 2007/07/10 (Tue) @ 10:11

Tango, I know this isn’t your favorite subject, but I don’t think your math quite works.  Let me take A-Rod as an example.

Right now, A-Rod has 10.4 WA and 6.6 LA for a WPA of 3.8.  That makes 17 WA+LA.  If I take .464 of that, I get a baseline of 7.9, and 10.4 minus 7.9 is 2.5.  So his “WPAB” is lower than his WPA.

It seems that a step is needed to “neutralize” the WA and LA of players who veer from .500, doesn’t it?


#2    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/10 (Tue) @ 10:28

I don’t have a problem with this subject!

You missed half a step:

WAbase = 17*.464 = 7.9
LAbase = 17*.536 = 9.1

WPAbase = 7.9 - 9.1 = -1.2

So, ARod’s WPA above base is 3.8 - (-1.2) = 5.0

He’s 5 wins above baseline.


#3    studes      (see all posts) 2007/07/10 (Tue) @ 13:07

Got it.  Thanks!


#4    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 14:16

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/putz_putting_up_cy_young_numbers/

I doubt there’s there’s anyone out there that puts this much weight on WPA, but consider that by strict WPA, 35 innings of Al Reyes’ 118 ERA+ is worth more than 141 innings of Johan Santana’s 149 ERA+.

Where to begin?  Let’s see.

Santana has a 2.94 ERA.  Matt Garza has a 1.47 ERA to lead the league.  Garza has 18 IP total.  Are we going to dismiss ERA because it shows Garza on top?

No, you have to understand the scale.  The scale of ERA doesn’t care about quantity, only quality.

The scale of IP doesn’t care about quality, only quantity.

IP/9 * (ERA - lgERA) is ONE way to combine quality and quantity.  It treats a league average ERA of 200 IP the same as 20 IP.  So, we don’t like that too much.

IP/9 * (ERA - baseERA) is the standard way.  The question is the best way to determine baseERA.  Since we know that the exact same pitcher as a starter will have an ERA of almost 1.00 higher than as a releiver, we make that adjustment.  You can set baseERA as 5.50 for starters, 4.50 for relievers, and be on your way (or 6.00, 5.00, or whatever you want).

***

The same applies to WPA!  Santana has 9.8 win advancements and 8.1 loss advancements (WPA of +1.6, after rounding).  But, WPA in this sense is akin to:
IP/9 * (ERA - lgERA)

We already don’t like that.  But, that’s not a WPA issue.  It’s a usability issue.  Santana’s game advancements (9.8+8.1 = 17.9) would be used to determine the baseWPA.  The baseWPA is roughly equal to -.08 times GameAdvancement.  So, Santana would be compared against a level of -.08x17.9= -1.4.

That puts him +3.0 wins above the baseline.

Al Reyes has 3.9 win advancement and 2.3 loss advancement for a WPA of +1.66 (after rounding).  A reliever’s baseWPA is roughly equal to -.015 time GameAdvancement.  That puts the comparison level for Reyes at -0.1.

That puts Reyes at +1.8 wins above the baseline.

Reyes, in the 15 PA with a leverage of at least 3.0 has gotten an out 14 times, and allowed one single.  That is FANTASTIC.  In the 24 PA with a leverage of 2.0 to 2.9, he’s gotten a negative outcome (hit, walk) 7 times (meaning an OBP of .292, which is excellent).  All told, in the 39 most crucial PA of his season, the opposition did good 8 times (essentially a .205 OBP).  I see no reason to reduce his impact here.

Please, understand WPA before pointing out any absurd results.


#5    studes      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 15:54

In my next Ten Things column, I’ll be applying this approach to Sagarin’s output.


#6    Guy      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 15:56

I agree with your main point here.  I’m not a huge WPA fan, as you know, but many of the criticisms made are uninformed.

However, I do think one could make the case for a higher replacement level for closers and setup men, i.e. the pitchers entrusted with high-LI innings.  Roughly speaking, only 60 pitchers are needed to do that job in MLB.  Teams can only leverage the talent of a limited number of pitchers, so a replacement-level short reliever is something like the 61st best reliever.  There’s rarely a need for a team to use a true repl-level pitcher in high-LI situations. 

Now, let’s say the 61st-best reliever is a 3.50 true talent pitcher (just guessing).  He’s not “freely available talent”, but he’s only a 10 RAR player when used at normal LI levels over 90 IP.  So, if a closer gives you 72 IP at 2.50, and LI of 2.0, I would call that 8 RAR * 2.0 LI = 16 RAR.  Then add the 10 RAR for his baseline value, and call him a 26 effective RAR pitcher.  (As opposed to using a replacement level of 4.50 and saying he is 16 RAR * 2.0 LI = 32 RAR.) Apply the same principle to WPA.


#7    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 16:58

Excellent idea Guy.

If a closer is exactly an average closer, he’ll get exactly zero leveraged-wins above closer, plus the standard unleveraged-closer wins above replacement. 

I like that the average closer doesn’t get any extra bonus, since every team will have leveraged innings to pass around.  It’s only his performance above (or below) the average closer level that gets magnified.

It’s brilliant in its simplicity.


#8    Patriot      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 17:01

I like Guy’s point a lot--relievers are the area of the club where you can best see chaining in actions.  I think David Gassko touched on this in his THT article about whether Papelbon should start or relieve.

Regardless of that though, it seems like some WPA advocates (not Tango or anyone here) want to force WPA as “the one true value”, that any other way of thinking about value is flawed, and I disagree with that.  WPA is a formulation of value, and operates based on what is known at the time.  One could argue that this is the most realistic, since that is the situation that each player performs under at the time.

But since value is by its very nature backward-looking, to me it is no less proper to go back after the game is over and see how much each run was worth.  If Seattle wins 5-4, then they would not have won had Putz allowed a run; but they also would not have won had Brandon Morrow or Felix Hernandez or whoever had allowed a run.  Looking back after the game is over, all of the runs are equally valuable. 

I know that this is hardly a new insight on my part; I myself has written the same thing before.  And my point is not to say that the WPA approach to value is wrong.  But I do feel that it is just as silly to trumpet WPA as VALUE itself then it is to write it off altogether.  The BTF threads seem to have the more extreme positions represented.


#9    Guy      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 17:20

"I like that the average closer doesn’t get any extra bonus, since every team will have leveraged innings to pass around.”

Not only that, but the closer is the one player on a team who we can be absolutely certain had zero responsibility for creating that leverage.  So it’s perverse to give all that value to him.

* * *

B-Pro’s WXRL is another above-replacement metric employing leverage.  I assume Woolner uses the same replacement level as VORP, which for relievers is about one run above lg-avg R/G (approx 5.5 R/G today).  That’s way too high, I think, and will give you very exaggerated values for high-lvg pitchers.


#10    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/24 (Tue) @ 17:25

I’m really keen on Guy’s idea.  Let’s try to give it some numbers.  We know that the average reliever has a .520 record (based on component ERA), while the average PITCHER as a reliever is .560.  The replacement-level PITCHER as a reliever is .470.

From that, here are guesses as to the talent level of relievers (6 relievers per team):
.600
.550
.520
.500
.480
.470

That gives us .520 average.

Let’s also give these LI for the 6 relievers:
1.8
1.2
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6

That gives us an LI of 1.0

Assume each reliever gets 81 IP (9 full games).

Say you have your ace reliever who pitches .600.  He’s +.000 above the closer level (also .600), and therefore, he doesn’t get any leveraged wins above this level.  And his .600 record is +.130 wins above replacement, so he gets:
+.13 * 9 = +1.2 wins above replacement

If he was a .700 pitcher instead, then he gets:
+.100 wins above closer x 2.0 LI = +.200 wins above closer per game
He also gets +.130 wins above replacement per game.

All told, he’s +.330 * 9 = +3.0 wins above replacement.

The WPA framework would have said that this .700 pitcher would be:
(.700-.470)*9*2= +4.1 wins

In a “chaining” process that 2.0 LI would work out to something like a chained 1.4 LI, so that you’d get:
(.700-.470)*9*1.4= +2.9 wins above replacement

Hmmm… therefore Guy’s simplistic approach seems to be equivalent to a chained approach.  The genius of Guy’s approach is that it’s much cleaner to explain.


#11    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/25 (Wed) @ 08:29

Note: I moved the other comments I had here to its own thread:
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/a_run_is_a_run_is_a_run/


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