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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Josh Hamilton screams, fans support him

By Tangotiger, 11:56 AM

Josh Hamilton, in a rush to get to the birth of his child, allegedly screamed in the face of an autograph seeker in the lobby of his hotel.  The comments in that thread, and in those of BTF, are filled with posts of support, saying that the girl “asked for it” with her pestering attitude.

I would suspect that if the girl were to replay the incident, she’d have handled it better.  And I would suspect if you were to ask Josh that he would have handled it more politely.  In this case, both were wrong, and the combination doesn’t make it right, just worse.  Of course, both can be forgiven, if they wanted to act as decent human beings, but something got the better of them.

I don’t really want to talk about this particular incident.

But, I want to put you in his shoes.  What would you do?  And let me change the parameters.  Say that you were not being pestered by a lady with a child, but by an unruly mob of 3 to 5 guys.  Say you do not have your teammates with you, but you are alone.  But, you do have a very pressing once-in-a-lifetime engagement, your mind is a bit clouded, and you really want to get out of there as fast as possible.  What do you do?  Do you size up the situation, and sign the damn autograph, or do you stick to your principles, and live with the consequences?  And, if you stick to your principles, do you (initially or eventually) take a best-defense-is-a-good-offense approach, or do you remain unfailingly polite throughout, crushing them with kindness?


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#1    Nick      (see all posts) 2008/08/19 (Tue) @ 23:51

I was at Camden Yards last week when Baltimore played Texas, and Josh Hamilton was out signing autographs for kid after kid before any other player on either team retook the field for the game. After seeing that, I’ll give Josh the benefit of the doubt, if there even is any.


#2    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/08/20 (Wed) @ 07:45

It should go without saying that we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.  As we have to give the benefit of the doubt to the lady asking for the autograph.  We presume they are both good people, who normally act like decent human beings almost all the time.  And they both wish they could have done something slightly differently.  Or, in two words: sh!t happens.

I’m bothered by people who must take sides, as this seems to be what people need to do these days.

I was more interested in a hypothetical situation, and putting the reader in a similar though not exact situation.


#3    MGL      (see all posts) 2008/08/20 (Wed) @ 17:35

It is silly to give someone the benefit of the doubt or not, whatever that evan means.

We all do ghastly things and saintly things in our lives, and everthing in between, at one time or another. 

To judge a person on one incident or even 10, makes good press (for some readers) but no sense whatsoever.

I also happen to think that it makes no sense to keep “score” of the good and bad things we do in our lives, as some people like to do and some peple think God does when we expire from this Earth.

We are all the products of our environment and our biology and whatever we do at any given moment may seem like “free will” but in a sense it is not.

That is just my opinion.  I don’t think that Motehr Theresa is any better or worse than the Boston Strangler or Osama Bin Laden.  We all do the best we can in our own ways given the lot we are handed at birth and in life.


#4    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/08/20 (Wed) @ 21:38

I definitely don’t share your opinion.  To me, in baseball-speak, we all have a “true talent level” or a core human value.  The context, the environment, certainly gives you different and sometimes difficult opportunities, where you might have to make a horrible choice.  I’d like to think that there’s no situation that would be so horrible as to say that I would be on an equal footing with the worst people in the world.  So, yes, I am better than Hitler or others.  And I think that Mother Teresa and Gandhi are better people than I am.


#5          (see all posts) 2008/08/20 (Wed) @ 22:00

As far as our eternal reward, we have all sinned and fallen short of God’s standards, and sin is sin.

Everyone one of us to a varying degree do “bad” things. Most of us strive to do better, and to treat our fellow human’s needs as more important than our own, but unfortunately there are those who only care about themselves, doing anything to that aim, and delight in the pain of others.

So, we regress to the mean, and until we know someone well enough, we assume that they are well intentioned people. Given a large enough sample size, we can tell better if the bad behavior is a true measure of character or just an outlier.

And we are allowed to call evil as evil, it’s whether someone else is going to Heaven or Hell that’s up to God.


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