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Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Jose Vidro: the race is on

By Tangotiger, 11:05 AM

I asked Mariner fans (.599) and non-Mariner fans (.666) what they forecasted in OPS for Vidro the rest of the way.  Marcel also chimed in with a .707.  Check in at Baseball Musings as we track his development, starting from July 14, 2008 to the end of the season, and see who provides the most insight.


#1    MR      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 12:35

Didn’t non-Mariner fans say .700 OPS (34%)?


#2    David Pinto      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 12:42

Excellent use of the Day by Day Database!


#3    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 12:53

Ouch… switch those two numbers around (.666 and .599).  I’ll make the correction.

I’m taking the weighted average, not the mode.


#4    Vegas Watch      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 14:19

Those 5.7% of people who picked <.500 are really giving us non-Mariner fans a bad name.


#5    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 14:28

David, your DB is woefully underappreciated.

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Fret not about the extreme picks.  When I knock out the top and bottom 10% of selections, I get .671 (instead of .666) for the non-Mariner fans and .613 (instead of .599) for the Mariner fans.  You still get similar results.


#6    Andy      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 17:11

Not to knock the experiment, but here’s to hoping that someone at the Ms brass wise up and cut Vidro before anything can be proven either way because even the most optimistic forecast (Marcel’s .707) isn’t worth playing an aging free agent-to-be in a lost season.

You have to imagine if he really does perform at .599 for any extended period of time after the break, he’d be let go pretty quickly.


#7    David Cameron      (see all posts) 2008/07/15 (Tue) @ 19:03

You would think that, wouldn’t you? With this organization, who knows. 

In the last month, he’s hitting .194/.237/.264, and in every single game he has started over that time, he’s hit 3rd, 4th, or 5th.  Mostly, he’s hit fourth. 

At no point this year has his OPS ever been higher than .705, and it’s been as low as .533.  It doesn’t matter - he still hits in the middle of the order.  Right now, he’s being used to “protect” Raul Ibanez. 

This organization is beyond incompetent.


#8    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/07/23 (Wed) @ 13:45

After 4 games played:
BA OBA Slug% OPS
.385 .385 .462 .846

Obviously means nothing so far.


#9    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/08/01 (Fri) @ 18:29

After 7 games:
BA OBA Slug% OPS
.312 .333 .531 .865


#10    vj      (see all posts) 2008/08/06 (Wed) @ 19:22

Looks like the M’s have cut the experiment short, in spite of Vidro having a .844 OPS after 47 ABs.


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