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Thursday, September 09, 2010

If you burn a book, but no one was there to see it, did it really happen?

By Tangotiger, 07:34 AM

No sports herein.


If the media is not there, if the news wasn’t pre-made, then what you are left with is an event of ignorant fools gathering.  If the media were to report on the event after it occurred, would they make it front-page news, or simply put it in some back page (or even ignore it altogether)?

This is a news matter that should be limited to the local town.

About 15 years ago, we had a nut in Quebec, an english nut, who wanting to fight the french takeover of Quebec, announced that he was going to Times Square, go on the soapbox, and disparage the french-government’s plans.  So, what happened?  There was pre-outrage by both sides. The media dutifully followed him, and, well, if you’ve ever been to Times Square, you would know that people go on their soapboxes and shout useless sh!t all the time, and are ignored by virtually all passer-bys.  And that’s what happened.  There was more media than people listening to him.

That’s what this fool is doing: getting onto his Times Square soapbox and shouting (or burning) obsceneties.  And the national media, desperate to create, not report, news, is there to give him that platform.  The news is NOT the burning, but the reactions of people who are going to see the burning that the media will broadcast.

Let the guy do what he wants to do, but just like a crying baby on his temper tantrum, or somebody throwing a lame party, simply ignore him. The baby will stop crying, and, you won’t even know that a tear was shed (or that a flame appeared). 

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#1    MIck Doherty      (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 09:56

Hear, hear.
I usually dread reading sports bloggers who go off-topic, but this was right on the mark. Ironically, of course, this would only follow its own advice by not existing! But I assume that’s why you didn’t use his name or even any specific details or location or anything. (Subtle, but effective.)

Well done!


#2          (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 12:20

I know book burning has a nasty past and nasty symbolic connotations above and beyond the book they are burning, but as a form of protest, what’s so nasty about it? It’s no different than burning a picture in effigy or burning a flag—if the fire codes are followed and the picture/flag/book are gotten legally (which often financially benefits the subject of derision), I can’t see the issue. Yes, I know about knowledge lost to book burnings in the Middle Ages, and about some books being works of art (this is especially common with copies of the Quran), but in an era of mass produced books and PDFs of the same books, this isn’t a big deal at all.


#3    bowie      (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 12:22

I agree that it would be preferable to ignore the idiot altogether.
But shouting obscenities at Times Square is nowhere near as bold and offensive a gesture as burning a pile of Korans.
The book burner is taking it up a notch.  Even ordinary hard-core Islamophobes are backing away from this guy.


#4    Xeifrank      (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 12:54

Nothing really to add other than… peeps in the middle east are already burning US flags over the threat.  One Cleric running for parliment in Afghanistan is calling for the deaths of American children if the burning goes through.  Obviously there are idiots on both sides of the ocean.  And lastly, why take it out on Americans when it is obviously not our government that is doing this.  Why not just go after the person or group involved in the possible burnings.  Haters gonna hate I suppose.  No reply needed, just venting a little.


#5    Alexander      (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 17:46

"Why not just go after the person or group involved in the possible burnings.  Haters gonna hate I suppose.”
I think this applies to the Mosque/Community Center in Manhattan as well. Many Americans lump all Muslims with terrorists, when they aren’t responsible.


#6    Guy Montag      (see all posts) 2010/09/09 (Thu) @ 19:14

Hard to tell which is more offensive, the general notion of book-burning, or the reaction to it. I’m inclined to be more revolted by the book-burning on general principles. But perhaps it was inevitable that someone somewhere would adopt a strategy akin to fighting fire with fire (to stretch a metaphor). When it was discovered that some imams themselves created and circulated some of the most disparaging caricatures of Muhammad for the purpose of inciting violence against that Danish cartoonist and cowing the western press, reasonable men could then conclude that the so-called Arab Street needed and needs no good reason to go on a rampage. Ratcheting up this situation is that not only the media but more importantly the Secretary of State and the general in charge of the Afghanistani theater have gone on record in opposition to the Florida plans. USA will always have its share of nutters. Giving credence to them, even backhandedly, is not a good precedent imo.


#7    Luke Gofannon      (see all posts) 2010/09/10 (Fri) @ 08:43

Stick it in a beaker of urine and call it art, Rev.  That ought to provide you all the cover you need.


#8    John      (see all posts) 2010/09/10 (Fri) @ 11:22

Terrifying to see the threats of violence coming from around the world in reaction to one random guy burning a book. I guess it’s not surprising considering the Mohammed cartoons, Theo van Gogh, etc.


#9          (see all posts) 2010/09/10 (Fri) @ 12:49

What gets me is all these reactionaries flipping out over the community center in the Holy Burlington Coat Factory but then turning around and saying that Reverend Hick can’t go burn the Quran, but giving him publicity for doing this. The best solution would be to have treated Cordoba House as a local issue that the local government already decided, then sed “Meh” when the reverend announced his book burning. In that instance, nobody in Medina would have even noticed.


#10    Tommy Paine      (see all posts) 2010/09/10 (Fri) @ 12:50

#6: “Ratcheting up this situation is that not only the media but more importantly the Secretary of State and the general in charge of the Afghanistani theater have gone on record in opposition to the Florida plans. USA will always have its share of nutters. Giving credence to them, even backhandedly, is not a good precedent imo.”

Vic Hansen put it best. “The United States ensures freedom of speech, even disturbing expressions of it, and has always paid the subsequent price for ill-manners.” Amen.

#7: Great point. Haven’t heard Andreas Serrano commenting on the situation.


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