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Thursday, April 03, 2008

HR on 0-2 count, to give the team the lead

By Tangotiger, 09:21 AM

Walsh goes through the list.  The interesting potential here is at the end, where he shows a pitcher throwing three straight pitches of the same type: changeup, in, belt-high or lower.  The third pitch went for a HR.

We always assume that pitching is about upsetting the timing of the batter, of mixing up his pitches.  I agree with it, and so do you.  But, the question remains: to what extent?  Mariano has only one pitch, so his “mixing up” is not based on the timing, but only on location.  But, what if Mo throws three straight pitches to the same spot?  How bad is that for him?  Does it turn him average, or minor-league level?

Basically, the question is: how much value is there in location, and how much value is there in mixing-up pitches?  If you get to 0-2 on a batter with the same two pitches thrown, what happens if: (a) the third pitch is the same one to the same spot; (b) the third pitch is the same on to the diagonal spot; (c) the third pitch is a different one but to the original spot?

PITCHf/x-ers… that a good question for you to tackle?


#1          (see all posts) 2008/04/03 (Thu) @ 13:50

Maybe someone can verify this, but Mariano throws almost all of his cutters up and in to lefties. He occasionally throws it down and away to keep them off guard, but he sometimes goes whole innings with the same pitch and same location.


#2    Mike Fast      (see all posts) 2008/04/03 (Thu) @ 14:04

Tango, I’m still working on classifying pitches.  It’s tough to do what you’re asking until we get that down better than 80% of the time.  If we had the BIS data at a pitch-by-pitch level, I might be confident enough in it give what you suggest a try, but not with what we have currently available.

Dan, Rivera throws the cutter both inside and outside to lefties:
http://mvn.com/mlb-stats/files/2007/12/rivera_cutters_both.jpg


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