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Monday, December 13, 2010

Graphical wOBA by count

By Tangotiger, 01:44 PM

There’s a new graphic guy in town, and his name is Josh Maciel.
Click image to see bigger:


#1    APV      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 15:13

Hmm...you hear first pitch strike statistics cited all the time.  The chart seems to suggest getting a strike on at least one of the first two pitches might be just as important a measure.


#2    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 21:45

I think this image is one of the best presentations I’ve ever seen.  Look at the information he’s conveyed:

1. The size of the circle tells you the frequency
2. The pie slices tells you the proportion.
3. The state-to-state transition is shown by the ball or strike
4. He tells you how often a PA ends at that count
5. Each pass-through count shows the wOBA

Simply a wonderful and perfect illustration of linear weights by count.


#3    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 21:46

Here is the latest iteration of the graph:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/splitcount20101214.png/

Based on a comment by Patrick in the Fangraphs comment, I added the ball/strike split on AB-ending counts (3-0, 3-1, 3-2, 1-2, 0-2), and based on an earlier request from Tango, I added lines for each .25 of wOBA (instead of the .50 I had previously).


#4          (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 22:14

Brilliant.  Conveys a wealth of information elegantly. 

This should be used in presentations on the basics of Saber theory.


#5    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 23:07

That graph pretty much represents the essence of baseball in a way that numbers on their own just could not get across.

Look what more it tells you: in hitter’s counts, you are more likely to transition to another state via a strike than a ball.  In a pitcher’s count, you are going to transition more often on a ball than a strike.

I asked Josh to complete the chart to transition into the walk/strikeout states as well.  It’ll show the impact of what happens when you get to the .000 or .720 wOBA levels.


#6    APV      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 23:13

This chart also makes me want to look at variation in 2-strike effectiveness between batters.  I suppose I knew this in some form, but I’m surprised by how effective batters are at avoiding the strikeout once they get to 2 strikes.


#7    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/13 (Mon) @ 23:47

Based on more comments from Tango, here is the result:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6922/splitcount20101214bb.png


#8    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 01:00

Excellent!

Your 3-2 count is wrong for the pass-through wOBA.  Way too high.

Maybe how you handle 2-strike fouls is incorrect?


#9    NaOH      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 01:06

One minor thing: The color shown in the legend for “At-Bat Ends” doesn’t seem to match what’s in the graphic. Regardless, excellent work (again), Joshua.


#10    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 02:23

tango, you’re spot on. I was using the wrong line for 3-2 “through” count (using all counts with 3 balls accidentally instead). Here is the updated version:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6922/splitcount20101214bb.png

NaOH: You’re quite right. AB ends should be changed to Batted Ball. Before I had left out walks/strikeouts as a pitch count, and just included them in the grey (hence the label). I should change that.


#11    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 11:16

I have updated the main image.  Thanks to Josh for a fantastic presentation.


#12    dave smyth      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 11:36

I agree, great stuff.

After 10 minutes of staring at the chart, I was still seeing new things.


#13    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/14 (Tue) @ 23:35

Thank you for the kind words.


#14    salb918      (see all posts) 2010/12/15 (Wed) @ 01:37

Very interesting.  Great job.

One nitpick: there is a path-dependency that is not captured here.  For example, a 1-1 count that comes via first-pitch ball is different than a 1-1 count that comes via first-pitch strike.

I looked at this a few years ago at THT and never really pinned down the whole framework. I bet Josh could do it, though.


#15    salb918      (see all posts) 2010/12/15 (Wed) @ 01:37

Very interesting.  Great job.

One nitpick: there is a path-dependency that is not captured here.  For example, a 1-1 count that comes via first-pitch ball is different than a 1-1 count that comes via first-pitch strike.

I looked at this a few years ago at THT and never really pinned down the whole framework. I bet Josh could do it, though.


#16    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/15 (Wed) @ 23:44

salb, I tried, but it doesn’t really seem to be doable with the (little) data I have. I’d have to get the data before doing something with it. If you know of somewhere I can get it (or if you have it), I’d be more than happy to give it a shot.


#17    salb918      (see all posts) 2010/12/16 (Thu) @ 01:55

Josh, I culled the data from Retrosheet.  One of the database mavens in the saberworld could probably get you the data from gameday.


#18    Joshua Maciel      (see all posts) 2010/12/16 (Thu) @ 06:04

I think the best way to do it would be through an interactive graph where a mouseover one of the counts would give you the graph for all pitches that went through that count. It would be all but impossible to put in a single graphic.

Ways to get to each count:
0-0: 1
0-1: 1
0-2: 1
1-0: 1
2-0: 1
3-0: 1
1-1: 2
2-1: 3
1-2: 3
3-1: 4
2-2: 6
3-2: 10

(at least on a quick look at it)

I remember reading your article on THT about that, I will look it up and take a few pointers, then try to track down the data so I can see what it shows.


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