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Tuesday, November 01, 2011

Fans Scouting Report: players on multiple teams

By Tangotiger, 10:03 AM

Below you will find the results of the 26 players who played on more than one team in 2011, and who received at least 5 votes from each of their teams’ fans.  Wilson Betemit for example received an identical (overall) score from both the Royals fans and the Tigers fans.  You will see broad agreement for most players. 

Those who didn’t get much agreement either points to a gap in the methodology, or perhaps captures some dissatisfaction with that player.  Colby Rasmus for example probably embodies this the best, with a low score with the Cards fans (in 2011) of 44, while he got a 63 with Jays fans.  Last year with the Cards, his fans gave him a 57, and in 2009 he was a 71.


diff val1  val2  vote1  vote2     player_id     player     team1     team2
0    30    30    15    30    400140    Betemit
Wilson     Kansas City Royals     Detroit Tigers
1    38    37    24    21    111851    Cabrera
Orlando     San Francisco Giants     Cleveland Indians
1    76    75    71    14    150348    McDonald
John     Toronto Blue Jays     Arizona Diamondbacks
2    63    61    24    91    489413    Wells
Casper     Detroit Tigers     Seattle Mariners
2    62    60    24    17    493120    Fukudome
Kosuke     Chicago Cubs     Cleveland Indians
3    69    66    19    8    407885    Ellis
Mark     Oakland Athletics     Colorado Rockies
3    42    39    18    17    502003    Sizemore
Scott     Oakland Athletics     Detroit Tigers
4    70    66    10    21    279577    Furcal
Rafael     Los Angeles Dodgers     StLouis Cardinals
4    64    60    84    15    452254    Pence
Hunter     Philadelphia Phillies     Houston Astros
5    53    48    6    13    150020    Hairston
Jerry     Washington Nationals     Milwaukee Brewers
5    59    54    14    78    431094    Hill
Aaron     Arizona Diamondbacks     Toronto Blue Jays
6    45    39    7    10    407886    Ludwick
Ryan     Pittsburgh Pirates     San Diego Padres
6    44    38    7    26    433898    Keppinger
Jeff     Houston Astros     San Francisco Giants
6    47    41    13    17    449107    Aviles
Mike     Boston Red Sox     Kansas City Royals
7    30    23    20    28    430321    Young
Delmon     Minnesota Twins     Detroit Tigers
7    74    67    162    16    456422    Bourn
Michael     Atlanta Braves     Houston Astros
8    65    57    20    22    136860    Beltran
Carlos     New York Mets     San Francisco Giants
8    33    25    5    16    430404    Gomes
Jonny     Washington Nationals     Cincinnati Reds
9    43    34    5    7    430946    Lopez
Jose     Florida Marlins     Colorado Rockies
10    39    29    9    63    279913    Patterson
Corey     StLouis Cardinals     Toronto Blue Jays
11    63    52    8    18    111904    Cameron
Mike     Florida Marlins     Boston Red Sox
12    37    25    6    11    150479    Lopez
Felipe     Tampa Bay Rays     Milwaukee Brewers

16    40    24    6    40    407487    Rivera
Juan     Los Angeles Dodgers     Toronto Blue Jays
16    58    42    28    17    448801    Davis
Chris     Texas Rangers     Baltimore Orioles
19    63    44    53    26    458675    Rasmus
Colby     Toronto Blue Jays     StLouis Cardinals
20    51    31    15    8    450315    Allen
Brandon     Oakland Athletics     Arizona Diamondbacks

#1          (see all posts) 2011/11/01 (Tue) @ 13:02

Is there any way to determine whether the same people voted for Betemit twice (i.e. voted on both the Royals’ and Tigers’ ballots)?  This is the confound I’ve thought of when this kind of thing was observed in the past (a few years ago, I think we saw identical scores with Orlando Cabrera on two teams the same year).
-j


#2    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2011/11/01 (Tue) @ 13:38

I would be able to tell, but there’s no way that is happening.

And if you saw identical scores for Cabrera (meaning for all 7 traits), then chances are those were consolidated already.  That could only have happened 2008 and earlier.


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