Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Draft Picks or Young Players?
Dave at USSM looks at what to do with Ichiro: trade him for current players, or wait to claim draft picks? He rolls up his sleeves, does all the great dirty work that we hope for, and finds this:
Out of the 41 players received in return for the 16 traded all-stars, two have turned into all-stars (Grady Sizemore and Aaron Harang), several more are good everyday players or mid-rotation starters (Mark Teahen, John Buck, Brandon Phillips, Placido Polanco, Cliff Lee, Jake Westbrook), and the other 33 aren’t in baseball anymore or have little to no value…
Of the 42 compensation selections on the list, three have become all-stars - David Wright, Nick Swisher, and Huston Street. Several more have become solid contributors - Joe Blanton, Mark Teahen, David Aardsma, and Aaron Heilman. And, a few others have become the elite prospects in baseball today - Philip Hughes, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, and Adam Miller, while JoJo Reyes is just a good pitching prospect instead of an elite one, and ‘07 draft picks Beaven, Borbon, Smoker, and Zimmerman are far too young to determine their value at this point. 27 of the picks could be labeled as busts, even though a couple still have a shot to turn into major league role players down the road.
I don’t like the “aren’t in baseball anymore” provision, since they could have certainly done something from then through 2006 (Bobby Kielty for one). However, Dave does give you the list of names, so you are free to make up your own conditions.
At the very least, the “get something for him now” crowd clearly aren’t thinking about the opportunity cost. There’s this thinking that if you can’t see it, it doesn’t exist. And draft picks are treated as some distant possible hope, a lottery, by this group. On the flip side, even if the draft picks return better players than the “get something for him now” players, you still have to wait a bit to get those players. You need to apply some discount value to that.
In the end, dropping Ichiro means that you lose him for two months and you lose the two draft picks (one a bust, and one who may be ok), in return for three players, two of which will be a bust, and one of which may turn out ok.
Pick your poison.


Yea, I thought about trying to figure out a better way to classify the guys involved in the deals who weren’t prospects, such as Rick Reed, Bobby Kielty, Mike Timlin, etc… If I was going to publish this as an article somewhere, I’d have gone a bit further, quantifying the actual performance values and breaking down the cost of signing the draft picks as well.
But, since it was a blog post for Mariner fans, I decided to be a little more brief and focus on the prospect side of things, because the M’s aren’t trading Ichiro for the 2007 versions of Rick Reed, Bobby Kielty, or Mike Timlin.
From a prospect standpoint, I think it’s pretty clearly a wash. If you want to get potential in return, you might as well just keep him and get the picks. If you’re hoping for 2008 value, then, you consider the trade.
But, really, the M’s in 2008 with Ichiro aren’t any good, so trading for low ceiling players just because they can help next year isn’t a very good idea.