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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Chipper Jones and the first-pitch strike

By Tangotiger, 12:49 PM

Excellent article by Jon Sciambi:

Let me tell you about an argument I had with Chipper Jones. Last year, I came across an interesting nugget on Fangraphs while doing pre-game prep: Besides Albert Pujols, Chipper sees the fewest first-pitch strikes in the majors.

Chipper is open-minded when discussing hitting, even when he disagrees, so I decided to present him this information prior to the game. He was really surprised. He didn’t believe the facts, even though the numbers were inarguable. Or, more to the point, he believed in what he knew (and himself) more than my stupid, never-played-the-game facts.

Chipper was so surprised that he went around the clubhouse asking teammates, one by one, if they were surprised. None of them were. Everyone saw it but him, the guy with ostensibly the best view. Chipper has great eyes, obviously, and great belief in those eyes, but those eyes can also occasionally lie to even one of the best hitters in the game.

I went on to ask why he’d swing at so many first pitches when the numbers suggest it’s not a great play. Chipper explained that the first pitch is often the only time he’ll get a “heater” the entire at-bat. “OK,” I say, “but clearly, mathematically, factually, you’re not getting a ton of strikes.” We go round and round for a bit without concession on either side and eventually I go upstairs to broadcast the game.

The kicker in the article is what followed after.  Just beautiful.  It’s what happens when the subject of an experiment is aware he’s part of an experiment.

Anyway, in his career, Chipper Jones indeed swings at the first pitch often, 33% of the time, (above the league average of 21%, but not close to league-leading).  He swings and misses about as often on the first pitch as he does in other counts.  He fouls off the first pitch a bit more than often (maybe he’s swinging at bad pitches?).  But when he makes contact, he’s great, pretty much exactly where he should be for a hitter of his caliber.

All to say that this is a perfect example of NOT telling Chipper anything.  Chipper’s approach on the first pitch is consistent with his approach generally speaking, and so, we should not be telling him to change anything, just because for the average MLBer, you might want to change something.  As a general rule, if you are one of the best hitters of your generation, you really don’t need to change your approach.  If Chipper needs a saberist on his side, you can count me in to be there.

He goes on to say:

If Ryan Howard is up, I can talk about RBI and why dependent stats don’t evaluate individual performance well; RBI aren’t what reflects Howard’s greatness, his SLG does. I can mention that Howard’s massive RBI totals may be due to the fact that no player has hit with more total men on base than Howard since 1492 (I believe this is a fact but didn’t feel like looking it up). Point is, there are dead people who could knock in 80 runs hitting fourth in that Phillies lineup.
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If we eliminate the noise of RBI, runs, etc., keep it basic and utilize the slash stats, I believe that, slowly, the desert masses will drink the sand. The BP base must understand: VORP, EqA, WAR, and Robert Parish are not walking through that door. Not for a while. But it can only help if the broadcasters are a team, too—in uniformity (together, I mean, not wearing those blazers) while patiently holding that door open.

I was speaking to someone at ESPN, and I told him that Win Expectancy charts would be the way to go.  First, ESPN already does that with poker, and it is absolutely vital that they did.  That’s how they get the casual viewer in, to see someone’s chances of winning go from 5% to 90% on one flip.  It’s cool, it’s great, and it makes the casual viewer understand just exactly what happened.

For most fans, the win expectancy chart is implied… they know the odds.  And watching that Prior/Marlins game in 2003 was very palpable and required practically no graphic.  But imagine, at the end of the inning, just as they cut to commerical break, they were to have shown something like this for five seconds:

The viewer’s emotions, there on the screen quantified.  The tension rising as the chances of the Cubs winning dropping.  There’s really nothing to counter it.  There’s nothing to disagree with, since your eyes were actually telling the truth.

So, I agree with Jon, you need to tell the viewer something, and you tell him PART of a SPECIFIC story.  WAR, VORP, etc, those won’t cut it.  It’s too general and overally-feeling.  It gives you no profile, no sense of the player or the situation.  It leaves zero impression.

To tell the viewer the idea that Howard drives in just a few more runs than an average hitter given Howard’s runners on base profile?  That’s a winner.


#1    dave smyth      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 16:30

---"Besides Pujols, Chipper Jones sees the fewest first pitch strikes in the majors.”

No wonder Jones didn’t believe him, if that’s how he worded it. To me, that says that pitchers throw very few first pitches to Chipper in the strike zone. But that’s not what the Fangraphs stat F-Strike% means.


#2    Hizouse      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 16:32

Sciambi is really good on the air, as the article suggests.  Pity us poor Braves fans, who will have Chip Caray instead of him doing pbp next year.  Sciambi should, however, be doing more national broadcasts on ESPN, and I hope it works out well for him. 

Sciambi is also, btw, the guy who got into a yelling match with Bissenger a few years ago after Bissenger wrote his article blaming young pitcher injuries on pitchers not spending enough time in the minors.  Bissenger didn’t like it when Boog asked him if he had bothered to check stats like average rookie pitcher ages and games played in minors before MLB debuts.  I remember Boog saying something like, “The reason I like stats is that YOU CAN LOOK THINGS UP.” What an obvious and succinct plug for sabermetrics-- if somebody makes a statement about baseball reality, you can check to see whether it is true.


#3    Mike Rogers      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 16:37

I have always liked Jon Sciambi solely because I thought he had a nice, unique voice and he came across as “smarter” than the average PBP guy. I always watch the low-level college basketball games he does simply for him. Awesome article and good to see someone being proactive.


#4    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 16:50

Dave/1: right.

The F-Strike% is like this:

numerator:
first-pitch called-strike
+ first-pitch swings

denominator:
PA

So, you could have a low number because you DON’T swing at pitches outside the strike zone!  Or, you can have a HIGH number if you DO swing at pitches outside the strike zone!  Or a high number if you don’t swing, but they are in the strike zone.

For example, in the last 3 years, Guerrero is 25th highest (out of 135 hitters) with the highest F-Strike %.  And, I would guess that he probably sees the fewest first-pitches actually in the strike zone.

F-Strike% therefore conflates two separate skills: the number of pitches that the umpire thinks is a strike plus the number of pitches the hitter thinks is a strike.

David’s other metrics (the O- and Z- ones) are great.  This one?  I don’t see it…


#5    dave smyth      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 20:03

---"David’s other metrics (the O- and Z- ones) are great. This one? I don’t see it...”

Megadittos (couldn’t resist using a Rush phrase, Tango smile). Also, I sort of wonder why more people have not published quality (or any) analysis using those O and Z metrics. They’ve been sort of ignored, for whatever reasons. I’ve done lots of my typical plodding, notepad, calculator, amateurish ‘analysis’ from those metrics, and have learned alot about the dynamics of hitting (and, to some degree, pitching).


#6    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2010/02/23 (Tue) @ 23:30

David I agree.  It’s like the forest for the trees.  There’s alot of discussion on the PITCHf/x level in trying to analyze each pitch from the pitcher perspective, when the batter perspective is more manageable.

For pitchers, we need to know intent, and we don’t have it.  For batters, we do know intent (swing or take).


#7    MGL      (see all posts) 2010/02/24 (Wed) @ 01:49

If a batter has been around a while (probably does not take too long) there will be some kind of game theory equilibrium between the number of pitches in the zone versus how often a batter swings at pitches both in the zone and out of the zone.  Obviously the numbers depend upon how good the batter is when he swings at pitches in and out of the zone and the proportion of pitches he swings at in and out of the zone.  For example, if a batter never swings at pitches out of the zone on the first pitch, there is no reason whatsoever to ever throw anything but a strike on the first pitch.  Of course pitchers can’t either throw a strike or not, they can only throw a certain pitch with an intended location which has an X chance of being a strike.

However, in general, the more a batter swings on the first pitch (assuming he swings at mostly strikes and some pitches that are not strikes, just like any normal batter), the fewer strikes the pitcher is supposed to throw and vice versa.

So why did this smart announcer (I have no idea who he is) ask him:

“I went on to ask why he’d swing at so many first pitches when the numbers suggest it’s not a great play.”

when that is clearly not correct?  I guess he is not so smart after all.

If Chipper started swinging less often, then the pitchers would throw him more strikes. No batter gets any more or fewer strikes than he is supposed to get given how often he swings (and the other considerations that I mentioned above), again, assuming that he has been around for a while and has not recently altered his style of hitting talent.

IOW, whether a hitter swings too often or too little on the first pitch has absolutely nothing to do with how many strikes a pitcher throws to him since it is assumed, and it is generally true, that pitchers throw the optimal percentages of strikes on the first pitch (or any pitch) based on the hitter’s entire hitting profile.  The pitcher is always reacting to the batter and NEVER the other way around.  A hitter may or may not be swinging too much or too little, but we would have to look deeply into the results of those swings and non-swings in order to shed some light on that issue.  And as Tango says, it is unlikely that a great hitter is doing anything significantly wrong…


#8    MGL      (see all posts) 2010/02/24 (Wed) @ 01:55

"The pitcher is always reacting to the batter and NEVER the other way around.”

Scratch that.  It didn’t come out the way I meant it to…


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