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Friday, January 18, 2008

Change in batter/pitcher approaches through the Retrosheet years

By Tangotiger, 11:01 PM

I’m looking at the out conversion rates of shortstops per ball in play, in the Retrosheet years.  I grouped them by era (my standard ones that work well, which is to say 1957-1968, 1969-1981, 1982-1992, 1993-present). I further grouped them by batter and pitcher hand.  Across the years, for lefty batters, things are pretty constant.  When the pitcher is a lefty, the batter makes an out to the SS around 9.3% of the time.  And against righty pitchers, the batter makes an out 9.0% of the time.  There’s really not much change, era to era.

But, for righty batters, there’s a huge difference.  Against lefty pitchers, it’s 15.3% through 1981, and 14.2% after that.  And against righty pitchers, it’s 16.2% and 15.0%.  I’d have to look at the out rates for the other 3 IF positions, but it seems to me that v RHH, there’s alot more balls that are hit or thrown away from the batter.  Either that, or the type of RHH around since 1981 is of much different type than before then.

Anyway, I’m having fun with various WOWY changes I’m attempting.  I’m trying to keep it as simple as possible, and the handedness angle, as Rally has demonstrated, is a good one to tackle.


#1    Jim P      (see all posts) 2008/01/20 (Sun) @ 09:10

Maybe it’s the defensive quality of the shortstops.  We’ve seem the position become better offensively, so perhaps teams have been willing to accept less defense there.

Why wouldn’t this show up against lefthanded hitters then?  Maybe it has to do with pulled vs opposite field groundballs.

Are 2B showing a similar effect?

Does that effect show up equally on SS who spanned the era?


#2    Peter Jensen      (see all posts) 2008/01/20 (Sun) @ 12:01

Who is getting a bigger percentage of hit balls by righties hit to him?  Is the percentage of HRs per hit ball the same before and after?  How about the G/F ratio?  The decrease in balls hit to SS by righthanders may simply be a shift toward power hitting on pulled balls. It will be interesting if you find a similar shift to a decrease in hit balls to 2B by lefthanded batters.


#3    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/01/20 (Sun) @ 12:08

Right, I’d like to look at it for all 4 IF positions.

I’m also wondering about the turf. 

Remember, I’m not counting how many balls are hit to them, but how many BIP in the field anywwhere are converted into outs by the SS.  There’s a clear difference between RHH and LHH.

So much to do, so little time…


#4    Peter Jensen      (see all posts) 2008/01/20 (Sun) @ 12:44

From the percentages you give it seems that you are counting what percentage of total hit balls are converted to outs by the shortstop.  That number is dependent on what percentage of hit balls are actually hit to the SS.  Thats why I mentioned the factors I did as possibilities.  We don’t have any way of calculating the percentage of balls hit to the shortstop that the shortstop converts to outs for most years do we?


#5    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2008/01/20 (Sun) @ 13:01

Ok, I think we’re on the same page.


#6    Pizza Cutter      (see all posts) 2008/01/21 (Mon) @ 01:06

I remember a few months ago, I did a piece on how players were getting physically bigger (by BMI).  The one exception seemed to be shortstop, although there was some creeping up (and I only looked from 1980 onward).  Do you have the ability to sneak BMI into your calculations?


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