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Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Brian Bannister speaks “FIP”

By Tangotiger, 10:09 AM

This was last year.  I would have thought that I linked to it, but I can’t find it.  Enjoy an athlete who doesn’t repeat the Bull Durham cliches:

“Look at my xFIP,” he is saying as he pulls out a few pages he printed off the Internet site, “The Hardball Times.” ... “Look at that,” he says again. “I’m actually pitching better than I was last year. My xFIP is down. It’s just that I got lucky last year.”

The author of the piece is none other than Joe Poz (how lucky are we that at the intersection of athlete and saber-thought exists the one guy who gets it, and can articulate it for the mainstream reader) who concludes:

Then he stares at the numbers for another few seconds, and he offers a frustrated smile because he knows that, in the end, nobody else really cares about his xFIP. Nobody else really cares about his skyrocketing Left on Base Percentage. All anyone cares about is that he’s getting lit up. He’s giving up many more runs than he gave up last year. And Bannister knows that despite all his analysis and study, in this crazy pitching game, it really might be better to be lucky than good.


#1    Nick      (see all posts) 2009/04/29 (Wed) @ 02:03

I have never read that article before, but that was definitely on of the best pieces I’ve read in a while.  It would be interesting to see how other pitchers, guys who aren’t as data inclined as Bannister, go about trying to improve their pitching.


#2    jinaz      (see all posts) 2009/04/30 (Thu) @ 12:36

Also speaks to Pizza Cutter’s semi-recent article about using sabermetrics to influence players on the field.  Bannister tried to increase his strikeout rates last year, and succeeded...but the bottom line--runs per 9 innings--wasn’t there.
-j


#3    Nick      (see all posts) 2009/05/02 (Sat) @ 05:28

The thing I found most interesting was the part about the high batting average with runners on.  He then concluded that he was worse from the stretch, and he needed to fix that.  That is a perfect example of how statistics can help future performance instead of just explaining the past.


#4    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2009/08/02 (Sun) @ 13:02

Our hero:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/1358851.html

What is the best way to judge a pitcher?

“I think the ultimate stat for a pitcher is xFIP,” Bannister said before pausing and offering a wry grin. “I know that’s getting really technical. It’s fielder independent pitching adjusted for your home run rate back to the league average.

“That shows a pitcher’s true level of talent. Baseball doesn’t have a strength-of-schedule element like college football does.”


#5    MGL      (see all posts) 2009/08/02 (Sun) @ 16:21

I don’t know why he threw in the strength of schedule comment in that sentence, as if FIP or some other saber stat adjusts fot that. None of the stats like xFIP adjust for strength of opponent, do they?


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