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Thursday, April 17, 2008

Batter on Deck

By Tangotiger, 07:35 AM

A great idea by Jeff, at looking at hitters with a pitcher on deck and not, with dramatic differences.  (Jeff should have noted the IBB, but that’s the least of the impact.) Great stuff, and time to look at multi-year data.

As you know, we looked at “protection” in The Book, and we do see changes in hitting/pitching approach, but the overall production didn’t really change. 

One thing I noticed in The Book is how the #5 hitter hits better than he does in other spots, presumably because the #3 and #4 hitters wore him out.  There’s lots of great studies to be done in terms of the on-deck impact.

Great job Jeff.


#1    Peter Jensen      (see all posts) 2008/04/17 (Thu) @ 10:39

There are several unexplained factors that could skew the reults of this study.  In addition to the IBBs that Tango mentioned, a batter may bat eighth if he has a platoon disadvantage against the opposing pitcher and be moved up in the lineup if he has a platoon advantage so handedness needs to be considered.  Also, the pitcher batting ninth is usually replaced by a non-pitcher in the lineup at the end of the game when the the better relief pitchers are pitching so the quality of the opposing pitcher should be controlled for.


#2    Guy      (see all posts) 2008/04/17 (Thu) @ 15:02

The controls Peter suggests would be good, but I doubt they would change the conclusion.  The first factor would mean that Jeff’s estimate actually understates the benefit of hitting in front of the pitcher.  And the second factor is probably minimal:  relief pitchers in the aggregate post about the same ERA as starters, plus some of the non-pitcher PAs come in games the batter is not hitting 8th (and so are not limited to late innings).

What I thought was interesting about Jeff’s results is what it means for studies of protection, like Drinen/Bradbury’s.  The impact of the pitcher on NL #8 hitters will create the illusion of “anti-protection”—the better the hitter is behind you, the worse you hit.  However, the pitcher impact is a special case, and likely tells us nothing about whether a Cardinal hitter will do better hitting in front of Pujols or Ankiel (if it matters at all).  So I think anyone studying the protection issue needs to omit 8th place NL hitters.


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