THE BOOK cover
The Unwritten Book is Finally Written!
An in-depth analysis of: The sacrifice bunt, batter/pitcher matchups, the intentional base on balls, optimizing a batting lineup, hot and cold streaks, clutch performance, platooning strategies, and much more.
Read Excerpts & Customer Reviews

Buy The Book from Amazon


SABR101 required reading if you enter this site. Check out the Sabermetric Wiki. And interesting baseball books.
MOST RECENT ARTICLES
MAIL : You ask | We say

Advanced


THE BOOK--Playing The Percentages In Baseball

<< Back to main

Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Balanced Playoff Hope

By Tangotiger, 02:50 PM

When it comes to division alignment, I’ve often proposed aligning based on market size.  Put the Yanks, Mets, Redsox, Dodgers in one division, put the Pirates, Royals, DRays in another division, and so on.

Putting the Jays and Rays in the same division as Yanks, Sox, and Orioles hardly seems fair.  Fans of those teams have such little hope.  As I’ve shown elsewhere, just on market size alone, the Yanks are expected to win 99 games.

Of course, if you put the Yanks, Sox, and Mets in one division, it’s also not fair that each of those teams now has the same chance of being in the playoffs as the Pirates, Royals, and Rays.  Ah, but they don’t!

Here are a few sample proposals that would handle this issue. 


The first proposal:
- two teams from each of four divisions makes the playoffs
- the number of teams in each division are: 4,6,8,12 (total 30 teams)

Now, we see that the Yanks, Sox, Mets, and Dodgers each have a 50/50 shot of making the playoffs, while the Royals, Pirates, Rays et al have a 1 in 12 chance of making the playoffs.  Where did I get these numbers?

I looked at all teams from 1988 to 2006, and figured out the team payroll for each team-season, as well as whether the team reached 88 wins or not.  (On average, 8.5 teams reached the 88-win level, which is my stand-in for playoff-bound.) I then grouped all the teams by payroll, and sorted them.  The Yanks, in that time period, spent 165% of league average on payroll, and had 0.71 “playoff-bound” teams.  The Expos spent 62% of league average on payroll, and had 0.19 playoff-bound teams.

The top four teams in payroll (my stand-in for market size for the purpose of this illustration only), the Yanks, Sox, Braves, Dodgers, were playoff-bound a total of 2.24 times per season.  That is, one-fourth of all playoff-bound teams from 1988-2006 were these four teams.

The bottom 11 teams in payroll were playoff-bound a total of 2.15 teams per season.  That is, these 11 “small market” teams are just as likely, as a group, to make the playoffs as the 4 “large market” teams.  Hence, the breakdown from my first proposal to have a different number of teams in each division to keep this large market / small market balance in check.  That is, there should be no objection on realignment based on the market size, since I’m using that as the basis.

The second proposal:
- 3 of 6 teams from the First Division makes the playoffs
- 2 of 6 from the Second
- 2 of 10 from the Third
- 1 of 8 from the Fourth

Again, this is based on recent historical data.  Of the top 6 teams in payroll, they averaged 3.0 playoff-bound appearances per year. The bottom 7 teams in payroll average 1.0 playoff-bound appearances per year.

The third proposal:
If geography/travel is a concern, then we could split based on have/havenots East/West.

So, a modification of the first proposal is to have 4 “haves East” and 6 “haves West”, along with 10 “havenots East” and 10 “havenots West”, and 2 teams from each division make the playoffs.

The reason for the East/West split in the Premier Division is because the East market is much larger than the West.

The fourth proposal:
If you want to go to six divisions instead of 4, and maybe also include some sort of the third proposal:
- one team from the four non-premier divisions make the playoffs, while two teams from the two premier divisions make the playoffs
- that leaves us with 4 “haves East” and 6 “haves West” in the premier division
- 5 “havenots East1”, 5 East2, 5 West1, 5 West2

Or you can try anything else, really.

***

What does this give us?  It gives all the teams the right amount of hope.  The Rays and Jays et al now have the same fighting chance as other teams in their market size.  Why do we want geography to dictate otherwise?

What will be the effect? If the Premier Clubs are all in the same division, it sets up its own universe of bargaining.  Would the teams really try to one-up each other, if there was a guarantee that half of them won’t make the playoffs?  I don’t know.  I don’t know if the Premier teams would try to outspend each other silly, or try to take a more reasoned approach.

#1    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 15:15

Here’s a function to determine the chance of making the playoffs, based on your payroll:

(P-0.50) x 8/15

P is the payroll index, where the average is 1.00. 

So, a team that spends double the average has an 80% chance of making the playoffs. 

This is of course simply a rough linear guide.  The historical data is based on endpoints of 62% and 165%.  Be careful in trying to extrapolate beyond those points.


#2          (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 16:38

Interesting ideas, lots of food for thought.

My first reaction was, why not base the divisions on actual revenue last year?  That way, if the team makes a lot of money, it has to play with the big boys even if the owner refuses to spend any of it.  I guarantee you that with no hope of making the playoffs against the Yankees and Red Sox, a high-revenue low-spending team would soon become a low-revenue low-spending team.

One drawback I see is that you’d get a fourth-division team going 81-81 and winning the series over the Yankees.  Fans would complain.  When the Cardinals win, at least their division was weak because of luck, not engineering.

Tango’s suggestions sound strange at first, but I think we could get used to them ... perhaps the union wouldn’t.


#3    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 17:03

The NHL did this realignment in their first three years following expansion:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/nhl19271968.html

The put the 6 new expansion teams in the same division, and had unbalanced schedules.  This gave the expansion teams a fighting chance.

The playoff format I would have followed there would have been more like you see in international competition: team 1 in division A plays team 4 in division B, etc.  This way, if you have an unbalanced league, as they did, it didn’t carry through into the playoffs.  However, in this particular case, I probably would have left the first round of the playoffs the same (intradivision), and then when it’s the final four, do the cross-over idea.  It seems that the NHL implemented this idea 4 years later:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/nhl19271972.html

And the 4th division winner couldn’t go 81-81.  If you have 8 or 12 teams, and the schedule is unbalanced, it would likely be extremely difficult to get the division leader go 81-81 or worse.


#4          (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 17:06

Ah, okay, I missed the part about the unbalanced schedule.  Still, when a 4th division team goes 95-67, it’s not the same as the 1st division team going 95-67.


#5    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 17:39

Sure, but it’s not supposed to be.  That’s why we’re giving the Premier Division more playoff spots to compensate.


#6    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 20:00

The “alottment” system is used everywhere.  Isn’t how they do it in college basketball?  In the World Cup, a certain number of slots is held for Europeans, South America, etc.  In hockey, there are specific nations that get alotted in, based on other circumstances, etc.


#7    Sal Paradise      (see all posts) 2007/05/16 (Wed) @ 20:47

4 team division? Unbalanced schedules? Do you know how utterly insane the Red Sox - Yankees rivalry would become? The Orioles have enough trouble competing as it is!


#8    tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/17 (Thu) @ 07:34

Who said the Orioles would be in the same division as those two?


#9          (see all posts) 2007/05/17 (Thu) @ 12:39

I like it.  You could even adopt the EPL system of promotion/relegation so that the divisions aren’t constant.  If so, I think it’s more fair to do that on revenue, not spending.  Of course, then accounting gimmicks become a competitive part of the front office game, not just a tool to fleece taxpayers for better stadiums.


#10    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/05/17 (Thu) @ 14:09

The divisions don’t have to be constant, but it wouldn’t be a promotion/relegation.  The only benefit you get from being in the wrong division is that if you can outspend your opponent due to your market size. 

The Yanks for example might *prefer* to be “relegated” to the 4th division, since even though they only have 1 chance in 8 of making it into the playoffs, could decimate all comers with their buying power of talent. 

On the flip side, the Rays wouldn’t want to go into the Premier division, since even though they’d have a 3 in 6 chance of making it into the playoffs, it’s really 0 in 5, since they couldn’t hope to compete with the rest of that division.


#11    Louis      (see all posts) 2007/05/17 (Thu) @ 14:14

It just seems to me that there might eventually come some prestige from being in the top flight.  For example, consider the Tigers.  When they were horrible in the 90s and early 00s, they would have taken their chances in the lower leagues.  But, now they are showing signs of being willing to spend like the Yankees and Red Sox.  Maybe they could justify higher ticket prices to their fans if they were promoted from the lower tier to the top tier.


#12    Mike Green      (see all posts) 2007/05/22 (Tue) @ 12:48

I am not an economist, but I really don’t see that Toronto has a markedly different “market” than Boston.  For park attendance, the Toronto area draws on the Golden Horseshoe with a population of roughly 8 million.  For cable revenues, they’ve got Canada with a population of about 30 million. 

At other times, Toronto has had a significantly larger payroll than Boston.  The current lower payroll reflects management decisions and a lower level of fan interest than in Boston.

As a Toronto fan, I don’t mind at all them competing with the Sox.


#13    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/07/30 (Mon) @ 15:47

{comment was deleted}

================================

Discussions are encouraged as long as they follow the site guidelines, notably:

“Think of this place as something like a college classroom. We’re in charge, we pick the topics, we set the rules, and we try to foster as much intelligent discourse as possible. If this isn’t your cup of tea, there are plenty of other sites out there for you to try—we’re not going to be for everybody, and we’re not going to try to appeal to the masses.” —USSM

You don’t have to agree with anyone, but disagreements should be done in a respectful manner.


#14    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/12/07 (Fri) @ 12:31

Someone asked about the league imbalance on some other thread.  Here is my response:

There’s no question that the AL is the better league, and by a substantial margin.  You’d need to send about a dozen superstars, or some 30 stars from the AL to the NL to be balanced.

I don’t think the 16/14 balance has much to do with it.  It has to do with payroll.  In 2007, the AL payroll was 1.30 billion, while it was 1.18 in the NL.  Removing about 11 million$ per team (the minimum each team needs to pay), and you are left with 1.15 marginal billion dollars in the AL, and 1.00 in the NL.  Basically, you’ve got 150 million more dollars spent in the AL on players, every year.

Presuming that the average AL team is a true .52667 and the average NL team is .47667, and the replacement team is .300, we get this:
AL wins above replacement: (.52667-.300)*162*14 = 514 wins.  The NL wins above repl is 458 wins.

AL teams are spending 1.15 billion to acquire 514 wins, or 2.24 MM per win.  NL teams are spending 2.18MM per win, which is fairly close.  (Just move 13 million$ from the AL to the NL, and they are equals in terms of dollars spent per win.)

If you used a .318 replacement level instead, they’d both be equal in terms of dollars spent per win (2.43 MM).

***

Anyway, as long as this keeps up, the AL team will continue to be the dominating league.  Why does the NL have a fair shot at the World Series?  Throughout the world, there’s a rebalancing going on.  Think of the World Cup in soccer, where not every continent is equally represented in terms of nations at the World Cup.  Heck, even the Little League World Series guarantees that an American city makes it to the finals.  The same applies for the NCAA 64 basketball teams.  Better conferences send more teams.

As it stands, it’s ridiculous for the AL and NL to each send 4 teams to the playoffs.  The AL should send 5 and NL 3 (if not 6 and 2).


Page 1 of 1 pages


Name (required)
E-Mail (optional; WILL be published)
Website (optional)

<< Back to main


Latest...

COMMENTS

Feb 12 01:57
Who is Jeremy Lin?

Feb 12 00:40
Clutch analogy

Feb 12 00:38
Reader Mail of the Day: Why do we need X years of fielding data?  And what about outliers?

Feb 11 20:11
Fighting leads to goals?

Feb 11 19:55
Why do players get crappy caps?

Feb 11 19:12
Hero of the month: Brittney Baxter

Feb 11 17:59
MGL: Today on Clubhouse Confidential

Feb 11 10:29
Dwight Evans

Feb 11 02:12
Performance through the ages

Feb 10 23:01
For Your Soul