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Tuesday, October 30, 2007

All the fielding systems

By Tangotiger, 02:26 PM

Here’s jinaz reporting on correlations of all the fielding systems known to man, including the system that you guys contribute toward:

The Fans’ Scouting Report.  This was the big surprise for me. While the hit location statistics were better correlated to one another than they were to the Fans, FSR data does pretty darn well for itself. Remember, these are data that a) are based on the subjective rankings of fans, many of whom are no better trained than I am to evaluate defense visually, and b) are weighted and converted into +/- runs by regression equations that I built upon a dataset that has rampant collinearity problems. So for it to even come close to the hit-location statistics, not to mention being a better match than the DT’s, was pretty exciting.

And here’s part 1.


#1    Mike Green      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 10:34

The other interesting comment concerns the reliability and uses of BIS vs. STATS hit-location/"batted ball type” data.  Jinaz suggests that there are obvious differences between the BIS and STATS data which contribute significantly to the different results in the rating systems, and that the best approach is a combined one. Rally has done yeoman’s work in this regard (http://home.comcast.net/~briankaat/statsite.html).


#2    Rally      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 11:00

Thanks Mike.

Comcast recently upgraded me from 25 mb of web space to a full gig.  All for the same price.  Over the offseason I intend to put lots of stuff on that site, including the fielding stats I created from retrosheet.


#3    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 11:25

What kind of bandwidth do they give you?  My host gives me tons.  If you need the bandwidth, let me know.  This applies to anyone else out there, too.


#4    Rally      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 15:18

I’m not really sure.  I’m a novice at stuff like that so pardon the dumb questions, but if bandwidth is a problem, then if a lot of people want to view my stuff it will take a long time to load, right?

To this point, I’ve never had a problem, and I’m sure a lot of people downloaded the CHONE projections last year.


#5    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 16:14

Hosts limit your bandwidth.  The standard host will give you something like 10 GB (10,000 MB) of bandwidth per month, and 1 GB of disk space.  Your 3 files on your site totals 0.5 MB.  If your host gives you 10 GB of bandwidth, that means 20,000 people can download your files per month.  If you start offering the annual Retrosheet files, that might mean you are going to multiply everything by 50, meaning that you will be down to say 400 users who can download everything.  So, just be aware of the size of your downloads.

I don’t know how much Comcast offers.


#6    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 17:40

Rally, this is what Cablevision offers its customers, as part of their “boost” program, for 9.95$ a month:
http://www.optimum.com/order/boost/features.jsp

I presume Comcast has something similar?  It’s a fair deal, which probably is excellent if the boost is worth it to its customer.  Since they offer free domain name, you should take advantage.


#7    Rally      (see all posts) 2007/10/31 (Wed) @ 20:00

I checked with Comcast, they told me there were no bandwidth limits, which is sweet.  They have not yet upgraded to 1 GB, so I’m at 25 MB storage space, but I think they’ll have it ready before I put enough stuff up there to exceed it.


#8    Tangotiger      (see all posts) 2007/11/06 (Tue) @ 15:03

Jinaz on the catchers:
http://jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/2007/11/player-value-part-3c-fielding-catchers.html

Where he says:

Using the procedure outlined above, below are fielding estimates for 2007 catchers with a minimum of 400 innings behind the plate. FWIW, the correlation between the {Fans’} data and the sum of the empirical fielding ratings (listed below as +-Runs) was 0.60, which is encouraging.

This is definitely great news.  We see here a good relationship between The Fans’ evaluations and performance data.

Note that the intertwining relationship between pitchers and catchers is covered here (1974-1990):
http://www.tangotiger.net/catchers.html

Note: in the THT 2008 Annual, I will have it updated for all the Retrosheet years (1957-2006, except 1999).


#9    Anthony      (see all posts) 2007/11/06 (Tue) @ 17:50

#8: The link to the catchers study has a typo...missing a ‘t’ in ‘tangotiger.’


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