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Wednesday, November 04, 2009

A wonderful, concise article on the typical stories from the media when a team wins something…

By , 05:47 AM

We don’t normally just link to baseball articles on this blog, like, say, the BBTF Newsstand, but I really liked this one, which has to do with the nonsense you hear continually from the media (and the players and managers).

Here are some excerpts although the article is short:

If Pettitte outpitches Martinez, or if the Yankee offense proves too much for Philadelphia in game six, the Yankee victory will be attributed to Pettitte’s determination, the Yankees ability to bounce back “as they have done all season long” and the coolness under pressure of whoever delivers the big hit.

A similar storyline will emerge if the Yankees win in seven games.  In that case, Sabathia will be the one with grit and determination, but the Yankees will be hailed again for their ability to bounce back “as they have done all season long”, as well as inevitably, their drive and understanding that anything less than a World Championship wasn’t good enough for their fans or their city. In either case Joe Girardi will be lauded for his confidence and willingness to stick with his three man pitching rotation in the face of criticism.

If the Phillies manage to beat Pettitte and Sabathia in New York, Girardi’s stubborn refusal to be flexible and insistence on using only three starters throughout the whole post-season will be at fault, but the larger story will be the determination of the Philadelphia Phillies, their unwillingness to quit and the importance of momentum.

All of these explanations are, of course nonsense, based on seeing causalities where they don’t exist and making assumptions about behavior and motivations that simply are not true. Is it even remotely plausible that the team that loses will have done so because they didn’t try hard enough, or that the team that wins will have done so because they were more determined?  Baseball players at the Major League level are all determined, hard working and possess extraordinary drive, otherwise they wouldn’t be there. Nobody works all year, and in many cases all their lives, to get to the World Series and then stops caring.


#1          (see all posts) 2009/11/04 (Wed) @ 12:47

This is a good point.  Watching the series, and watching the earlier regular season interleague series between the Yankees and the Phillies, my impression is that the teams are about even in talent.  The Yankees’ higher payroll is cancelled out by the fact that they are an older team in the Phillies and have fewer players in their prime, though they do have more depth.

From a fans’ standpoint, this is a good series because you have two talented teams that are actually playing to their potential.  I genuinely have no idea who is going to win.

Plus random chance affects outcomes much more than the media says (this applies to other ares than sports).  This is one area where reporters and editors could benefit from a few courses in statistics.


#2    Paul Scott      (see all posts) 2009/11/04 (Wed) @ 13:07

The article was pretty spot on until it tried to do it’s own analysis:

“The first is that sometimes teams win simply because they are better.  That, more than anything, clearly explains how the Phillies and Yankees vanquished their LCS opponents”

Setting aside the ALCS, how does the author arrive at the conclusion that the team with the inferior record over 162 games coming from the inferior division won a seven game series because they were “clearly the better team.” Even setting aside the fallacy that the Phillies were the superior team, the conclusion that that would “clearly explain” the result makes no sense.

Even a clearly superior team (such as the Yankees in the ALCS and WS) will loose a 7-game series often enough (about 15% of the time if they have a 65% chance to win every game), that don’t understand how any 7-game game series can ever be said to have been won clearly because one team was better than the other.


#3    MGL      (see all posts) 2009/11/04 (Wed) @ 13:22

Paul, yup, you are right. Ed, there is very little chance that the two teams are about even in talent, and if you could “tell” by “watching them play,” you are a genius and should be a billionaire as well..


#4          (see all posts) 2009/11/05 (Thu) @ 00:15

It’s a good article.  I like when they predict the storylines for each eventuality in advance like that.  The ultimately true storyline is “the X won because in a seven game series, someone has to win four games in four, five, six or seven games.” But analysts and sportscasters wouldn’t get paid the big bucks if they let on.


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