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    <title type="text">THE BOOK&#45;&#45;Playing The Percentages In Baseball</title>
    <subtitle type="text">A discussion of sabermetrics, hosted by the authors of &quot;The Book&quot;</subtitle>
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    <updated>2008-05-16T19:59:39Z</updated>
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    <entry>
      <title>When to walk &#8216;em&#8230;</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1045</id>
      <published>2008-05-16T15:55:01Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-16T15:55:45Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>MGL takes it on, in <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/when-to-walk-part-1/" title="part one">part one</a>.
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    <entry>
      <title>Boring college professors say of surfing students:</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1044</id>
      <published>2008-05-16T15:28:02Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-16T15:36:48Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Non-sports post.&nbsp; Enter at your peril, avoid at your pleasure.
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    <entry>
      <title>Scouting Mussina</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1043</id>
      <published>2008-05-16T04:21:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-16T04:24:36Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Knowing that a guy&#8217;s fastball speed has dropped 4mph is an important thing <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/moose-tracking" title="to know">to know</a>.&nbsp; What you&#8217;d also like to know is if the movement on the fastball has changed to compensate.&nbsp; This is where PITCHf/x comes in.&nbsp; Similarly, a guy&#8217;s fastball could have stayed the same, but if it was accompanied with much less movement than usual, that&#8217;s also important to know.&nbsp; Anyway, great job, and I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing more scouting aging patterns among pitchers.
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    <entry>
      <title>Deconstructing the Passing Paradox</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1042</id>
      <published>2008-05-15T18:14:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-15T18:18:40Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll point you to <a href="http://sabermetricresearch.blogspot.com/2008/05/nfl-passing-premium-revisited.html" title="Phil">Phil</a>, who does a great dissection and who links to the academic paper, along with Brian Burke&#8217;s great 3-part blog post (read only the third one if you are pressed for time).
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    <entry>
      <title>Place Hitting</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1041</id>
      <published>2008-05-15T14:52:06Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-15T14:53:34Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/hit-em-where-they-aintmdashif-you-can/" title="I haven't">I haven&#8217;t</a> even read Walsh&#8217;s piece, but I&#8217;m excited to.&nbsp; BRB.
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    <entry>
      <title>Another article about when current season stats become &#8220;real&#8221; (or something like that)</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1040</id>
      <published>2008-05-14T20:58:02Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-14T21:15:40Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>mgl</name>
            <email>mgl8@cox.net</email>
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<![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-05-13-shandler_N.htm" title="Ron Shandler">Ron Shandler</a> chimes in about the &#8220;reliability&#8221; of statistics at any point in the season.&nbsp; While he makes some good points about how the different measurements require different sample sizes (e.g., PA) to be equally reliable, the piece is littered with phrases, and I am paraphrasing, despite the quotations, like &#8220;become meaningful,&#8221; &#8220;reliable,&#8221; &#8220;taken seriously, etc.
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As I mentioned in another thread, I don&#8217;t like those terms being thrown around, with respect to this issue.&nbsp; They are misleading.&nbsp; And dangerous.&nbsp; One man&#8217;s reliable is another man&#8217;s unreliable.&nbsp; More importantly, the more a short-term statistic strays from a career one and/or from a population mean, the less &#8220;reliable&#8221; it is, given identical sample sizes (of the current performance).&nbsp; Not to mention the fact that you cannot make any mention of a statistic&#8217;s reliability based on the sample size of that statistic without knowing the prior history of the player or the mean of the population.&nbsp;  A player with no history hitting .260 on May 15 is probably around a .260 hitter (at least that is our best estimate, albeit without a great deal of certainty).&nbsp;  A player hitting .260 On May 15 who has been a .300 hitter his whole career is probably a .295 hitter.
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So how in the world can we say that May 15, or any other date, is the date at which a statistic becomes reliable, without knowing the prior history of the player and the mean of the population?
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Similarly, if a player is hitting .300 on May 15 with no history, his true BA is probably around .270.&nbsp; So one player with no history who hits .260 on May 15 has a true BA of .260.&nbsp; Another player with no history is hitting .300 on May 15 has a true BA of .270.&nbsp; In one case, his short-term BA is likely his true BA.&nbsp; In the other case, his short term BA is likely nowhere near his true BA.&nbsp; Again, how can we talk about a date or a current sample size, in isolation, that makes a player&#8217;s statistic reliable or not?&nbsp; We can&#8217;t!
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    <entry>
      <title>Do hard throwers perform better than expected than soft throwers?</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1039</id>
      <published>2008-05-14T20:56:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-14T20:58:23Z</updated>
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            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Rally <a href="http://lanaheimangelfan.blogspot.com/2008/05/fastball-velocity-and-pitcher.html" title="asks">asks</a>:
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<blockquote><p>What I want to do is see if, given a pitcher&#8217;s projection from his MLE, whether fastball velocity tells us any more useful information for his projection. In other words, do fireballers beat their projections? Do soft-tossers fail to live up to theirs?</p></blockquote>
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If you don&#8217;t want to read his study, the answer is:
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<blockquote><p>Knowing a pitcher&#8217;s velocity doesn&#8217;t tell you anything about his chances of success that you didn&#8217;t already know by looking at his minor league numbers.</p></blockquote>
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    <entry>
      <title>Curveball v Fastball</title>
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      <published>2008-05-14T13:34:01Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-14T13:36:01Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>Josh Kalk <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/anatomy-of-a-pitch-curveball/" title="walks us ">walks us </a> through it.&nbsp; A link at the bottom (references) showing the results, would be a welcome addition.&nbsp; Otherwise, excellent article.
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    <entry>
      <title>If I worked for a team and was allowed to do whatever I wanted (and they actually listened)&#8230;.</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1037</id>
      <published>2008-05-14T04:47:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-16T17:41:52Z</updated>
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            <name>mgl</name>
            <email>mgl8@cox.net</email>
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<![CDATA[<p>Here is a partial list of what I would do:
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    <entry>
      <title>It never ceases to amaze me&#8230;</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1036</id>
      <published>2008-05-14T01:49:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-14T02:03:38Z</updated>
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<![CDATA[<p>There are some (actually, many) decisions a manager makes that sabermetricians consider wrong.&nbsp; Or I should say, &#8220;the models that sabermetricians construct to model the relevant situation&#8221; say that they are wrong (sabermetricians have no &#8220;opinions&#8221; <img src="http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/images/smileys/wink.gif" width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" />).
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Anyway, some of these &#8220;wrong&#8221; decisions are &#8220;justified&#8221; by conventional wisdom, some are so close that it doesn&#8217;t much matter, and for some, perhaps, the manager is right, because he knows things that the model doesn&#8217;t.
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And then there are things that a manager does that are just plain dumb. Things that almost everyone, other than, seemingly, the manager, knows are dumb.
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Today in the Braves game, they are losing 4-3 in top of th 6th, with runners on 1st and 2nd and 1 out and the pitcher due up.&nbsp; Even the announcers said, &#8220;Reyes (the Braves starter) is on deck, but he won&#8217;t hit, especially if Prado (the batter) gets on (recognizing that the leverage goes up if he gets on).&#8221;
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I thought to myself, &#8220;Don&#8217;t count out the &#8216;managers can be exceedingly stupid&#8217; factor.&#8221;
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Sure enough Cox, the <i>Hall of Fame</i> manager let Reyes bat, and the rest of the game is history.
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I doubt I have to explain to the readership here how bad that decision is in terms of costing the Braves WE.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure Tango can give us the numbers if he has the time.&nbsp; We went through a similar situation with the Padres a couple of weeks ago.&nbsp; In that game, at least it was Peavy pitching (not that it makes that much difference).&nbsp; But here, we have a back of the roation guy in Reyes who is probably only going to pitch for another inning at the most.
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Pathetic.&nbsp; I feel sorry for Braves fans, but heck, almost all managers make really stupid decision like that all the time (or at least from time to time).&nbsp; 
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    <entry>
      <title>Make me a deal for Leverage Index</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1035</id>
      <published>2008-05-13T22:00:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-13T22:18:01Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>You guys know I love the Wisdom of the Crowds approach.&nbsp; So, let&#8217;s use it for something that has an outcome, rather than just the academic exercise we&#8217;ve been doing.&nbsp; I offered for Leverage Index to be part of the Bill James Handbook.&nbsp; 
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For a non-commercial product (specifically, if one of my readers can get the product or service for free), I have a free licence for it.&nbsp; I figure that as long as you guys don&#8217;t pay for it, I&#8217;m happy to donate it to these guys so that you in turn can see it in action.&nbsp; That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m happy that Fangraphs and B-r.com has taken it.&nbsp; 
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Now, other commercial ventures have approached me for it (video games mostly).&nbsp; I&#8217;ve turned them all down, because now that&#8217;s a consumer-paid product (as opposed to the ad-driven service that Fangraphs and B-r.com offer), and I honestly don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s worth.&nbsp; Plus, I never play video games, so I don&#8217;t really know how it&#8217;s going to be used, etc.
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<p>
So, this is where you guys come in.&nbsp; What is a licence to Leverage Index worth?&nbsp; You can state it in terms of dollars, in terms of % of revenue, in terms of value per book sold.&nbsp; You can state it in terms of in-kind, like data(*).&nbsp; Or in other terms that you can think of.&nbsp; Maybe make Bill James agree to drop Runs Created in favor of BaseRuns!&nbsp; Whatever.
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(*) For data, I already have an understanding that any work I do with BIS-related data at Fangraphs is published at Fangraphs.&nbsp; So, I&#8217;m thinking there is a limit to the value over and above this.&nbsp; But, maybe you guys have other ideas here.</i>
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Make me a deal guys.&nbsp; You are the wise ones.
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    <entry>
      <title>Pitcher wearing down</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1034</id>
      <published>2008-05-13T14:22:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-13T14:34:42Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
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<![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mvn.com/mlb-stats/2008/05/13/on-the-100-pitch-limit/" title="Some great">Some great</a> data by Pizza, on the relationship between pitch counts and performance.&nbsp; If the numbers look low he notes: &#8220;Again, these numbers are lower than might be expected due to some of the methodological problems I ran into.&nbsp; If I have a moment I might try to correct for it.&#8221;
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Regardless, the pattern is fairly plain to see.&nbsp; Roughly speaking, it looks to be almost 2 wOBA points per 10 pitches thrown.&nbsp; There are roughly 33 pitches thrown per time through the order, so that gives us an average change of roughly 6.5 wOBA points, each time through the order.&nbsp; In The Book, table 82, I show that each time through the order shows a difference of 8 wOBA points.&nbsp; So, fairly close.
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Pizza: can you add a parameter for &#8220;time through the order&#8221;?&nbsp; Table 80 makes it seem like there is a definite jump each time.&nbsp; Perhaps your results are smoothed out what may be a staggered effect.
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    <entry>
      <title>PITCHf/x Summit Recap and Presentations</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1033</id>
      <published>2008-05-13T01:16:01Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-13T01:17:51Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>All your links courtesy of <a href="http://sportvision.com/events/pfx.html" title="the fantastically accessible">the fantastically accessible</a> Sportvision, and a recap from PITCHfx-er <a href="http://ikehall.blogspot.com/2008/05/pitchfx-summit.html" title="Ike Hall">Ike Hall</a>.
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    <entry>
      <title>Mailbags on Parade</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1032</id>
      <published>2008-05-12T19:55:00Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-16T19:59:39Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: Ok, we are now live.&nbsp; You can click the links at the top right corner of any page on this blog, right where it says: &#8220;Mail&#8221;.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve started answering a few.&nbsp; When we have updates, I will make a note of it in the comments of this thread.&nbsp; Thanks.
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We have thousands of readers at this blog, but just a <a href="http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comment_leaders/">small portion</a> of those readers actually post on our blog.&nbsp; Presuming that there are some of you that prefer a different avenue to make your comments, we have started a <a href="http://www.tangotiger.net/mailbag/" title="Mailbag">Mailbag</a>, whereby you can provide feedback, ask questions, or whatnot.&nbsp; We guarantee to not only read them all, but reply to each one, either by selecting it for our blog for public viewing, or replying privately.&nbsp; Your name and email address will be kept private.
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    <entry>
      <title>Quick Park Factors</title>
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      <id>tag:insidethebook.com,2008:ee/1.1031</id>
      <published>2008-05-12T17:33:02Z</published>
      <updated>2008-05-12T18:09:53Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Tangotiger</name>
            <email>tangotiger@yahoo.com</email>
            <uri>http://www.tangotiger.net</uri>      </author>

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<![CDATA[<p>This idea stemmed from the original Historical Abstract.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s what I wrote to David at Fangraphs, and I&#8217;ll provide further commentary:
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